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[-] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's about the danger posed by a monolithic government or corporation deciding what things get to be traded and sold. Like a fucked up capitalist version of that poem "First They Came".

[-] Vroomfondel@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh, interesting! I know the poem. But I find it a harsh comparison to the situation about Valve's new regulation. And I did not see it as such a highly-charged political topic. But apparently it is. To me it does not look like "a monolitic corporation", as you can still buy games elsewhere. But I surely see the influence that the big banks/transactors have on Valve here. - But how would you limit this? Any technical solutions? On the other hand, if Valve would have implemented stricter rules for critical games themselves earlier, we would not have that problem/discussion now. (Please also see my other answer below.) Edit: Typo

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 3 weeks ago

To be clear, I'm talking primarily about Visa and Mastercard, the payment processors, not Valve. Those two companies have a pretty big stranglehold on the payment processing industry outside of possibly east Asia? I heard japan has their own payment processor, I assume it isn't limited to just Japan.

[-] Vroomfondel@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

Ok, yes. They are quite "heavy-wheight". And I might agree with their action now, but maybe another time it might be problematic for me. Also, that's how Capitalism works: The one with the money decide. But then, we should put pressure on them and not Valve! And the question remains: How would you solve that technically? (This is what the community is about. And I am looking for solutions, not problems here.)

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe I'm wrong, but nothing about your side of this conversation seems like good faith in any way.

Just going to put that out there. Your comments reek of someone with zero intentions of challenging their pre-held belief, while pretending that's not true.

No matter what evidence people bring up to you, you either ignore it or move the goalposts.

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