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AI Rule (lemmy.zip)

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[-] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I would argue that, prior to chatgpt's marketing, AI did mean that.

When talking about specific, non-general, techniques, it was called things like ML, etc.

After openai coopted AI to mean an LLM, people started using AGI to mean what AI used to mean.

[-] brisk@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

That would be a deeply ahistorical argument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

AI is a very old field, and has always suffered from things being excluded from popsci as soon as they are achievable and commonplace. Path finding, OCR, chess engines and decision trees are all AI applications, as are machine learning and LLMs.

That Wikipedia article has a great line in it too

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists organization views the AI effect as a worldwide strategic military threat.[4] They point out that it obscures the fact that applications of AI had already found their way into both US and Soviet militaries during the Cold War.[4]

The discipline of Artificial Intelligence was founded in the 50s. Some of the current vibe is probably due to the "Second AI winter" of the 90s, the last time calling things AI was dangerous to your funding

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

To common people perhaps, but never in the field itself, much simpler and dumber systems than LLMs were still called AI

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago

Does that mean that enemy AIs that choose a random position near them and find the shortest path to it are smarter than chatgpt? They have been called AI for longer than i played games with enemies

You can also disprove the argument by just using duckduckgo and filtering from before OpenAI existed https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22AI%22&df=1990-01-01..2015-01-01&t=fpas&ia=web

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Doom enemies had AI 30 years ago.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

But those weren't generated using machine learning, were they?

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So? I don't see how that's relevant to the point that "AI" has been used for very simple decision algorithms since for along time, and it makes no sense to not use it for LLMs too.