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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Where does it say to hate these people? The whole context of this conversation is talking about the law and addressing pharisees.

The context is a list...

the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine

It drops homosexuality smack-dab in the middle of some of humanity's absolute worst. Even ignoring the other verse that states gays should be murdered with rocks, the one you linked paints a pretty clear picture of how christians are to think of gay people.

Irrelevant.

...how? That bit was contrasting the church against the book. The church is a function of the book. You ever heard the expression "the purpose of a system is what it does"? Kinda sounds stupid at first, but this is the kind of thing it's talking about, and the reason you see even memes saying things like "the system isn't broken and needs to be fixed; it's working exactly as intended and needs to be destroyed." The evil shit committed by the church is the result of the instructions from the lore. So, hard disagree - it's 100% relevant.

“Red” to me means leftist. But I assume you’re an American and talking about the American Republican party led by Donald Trump.

You are correct.

Pedantry

Naw that was a good distinction. We seem to be online around the same time, so I assumed you were also US, despite your instance.

Should I- someone who believes that God literally became man and died for our salvation, reject God’s gift because Karen in Mississippi hates mexicans? By no means!

Absolutely not, but back to the system spiel. I'm not talking about the occasional anomaly, I'm talking about recurring patterns, entire communities, voting patterns. Oppressive regimes have always had a cheat code to win elections, and that's be catering to christianity (in areas where christianity is the dominating religion... we could pretty well copy and paste this entire conversation subbed for islam or w/e if you wanted). It's the same us-vs-them shit every time. So should you- someone who believes in god, reject that mythology over the realization that it compels people to do evil things, consistently and frequently? That's up to you. I did. I'd at least encourage you to reject the evil - by which I mean the human element, the church. Cling to the book if you must, but advancing the church isn't doing humanity any favors.

How do I feel about the current president of the United States of America? I believe he is an evil antichrist and he along with those who idolise him need to repent and turn to Jesus before it’s too late for them.

antichrist... he certainly checks a lot of the boxes. I can say with a pretty high degree of certainty that the folks here won't be repenting in any meaningful way. Trump is their god; Jesus is just their mascot. ...I'm not convinced it isn't already too late for us.

this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2025
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