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I don't even see how using a work to train a model is copyright infringement. unless the model is a machine for completely recreating what's fed into it and they're not.
This is not "the general vibe of Dune inspiration" this is literally a frame of dune compressed in a slightly different way than how the JPEG codec compresses it.
The vibe of dune does not include the location of individual strands of hair from an individual frame of a movie. That's just lossy compression. I don't make a new artistic work just because I save your shit as a JPEG and the pixels are now slightly different.
the prompt wasn't "the vibe of dune" it was "a screenshot from the dune movie 2021" though
You misunderstand. I'm saying the AI did not take some kind of abstract inspiration from Dune, or sort of know how to recreate it. It just stores the images in a shitty compressed format. This is just proof that it does that, and you can tell easily here because it isn't mixing in other stuff
right. I still am not convinced that using a work to train a model per se infringes on copyright.
that said, I think example above demonstrates that a model can be used to infringe copyright, and the infringement occurs for the specific output on a case by case basis. just like it would with a person who directly stole from a work they were familiar with.
me quoting that Kropotkin bit about how there's no such thing as a truly original idea but then adding at the bottom ("except if you run it through a mechanical turk it's been stolen") nodding sagely
I mean, they kinda are though. Like at least in bits and pieces, they are just set up to mix things up a bit.
It's like if you had a program to write movie scripts, and it didn't really spit out star wars verbatim, but it was set to make the protagonist's name to 99% of the time be Luke, and his pal is 99% of the time named Han, and so on for all the details. Like, that machine is not going to exactly recreate the script, but it's using the ideas from the source material to influence the outcome and get very close to what it came from, and on purpose.