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submitted 1 week ago by individual@toast.ooo to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It's not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was referring to Adrian zenz, that guy seems to pop up in literally every western accusation about China at this point.

The most recent example being him as a 'fluent' mandarin speaker hearing the word “满勤奖” or 'full attendance award' from a recording in a factory and intentionally misrepresenting it as “Xinjiang.” That was then the basis for then claiming that there was evidence of forced labor in Xinjiang.

[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You know his work though, quoting you:

You can prove stuff like “capitalism is destroying the ecosystem” or “China masacered the Uigurs”

I found out about Adrian Zenz because he was showing up in every source whenever I tried to look into accusations about how "China masacered the Uigurs"[sic].

Maybe you should look into where information is coming from before citing it as provable fact.

edit: someone even directly replied to you asking you for a source other than him over two years ago

You misquote me -.-

In the mentioned post i was giving examples of verifiable and falsefiable claims.

The point is that those are statements which (given enough time and info) can be proben right of wrong, while statements like "Einstein was wrong" "stalin was right" are not, because they are too broad and don't have a definitive and absolute binary "true" or "false" category.

This discussion is a waste of time

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

You gave that as an example of a provable claim. We can clearly see proof of 'Israel' massacring Palestinians, and have had new evidence appearing every day of the occupation.

Do you have any proof of your claim that doesn't come exclusively filtered through a right wing fundamentalist?

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