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No, it's not DnD.
In the DnD rules Shove requires a full action, not a bonus action, and only pushes the enemy 5ft, not 15-20ft.
@ag_roberston_author @Bakwerk Is DnD even DnD since 4E?
I never thought I'd see the day there was 4E purists.
Like 3.5E and OSR purists I kinda get, but 4E?
I think it's likely that they meant 4e was the change that made it not D&D. That said, time has dulled the shock, and honestly, 4e had a lot of great shit in it.
@ag_roberston_author What I mean is it hasn't been the same since 4E was wrought upon us.
I'm a 3.5E schlub.
In 5E's defense, I've been playing since AD&D, and I've never had as many sessions, with so many people, and had so much fun, since 5e. 5E made D&D accessible, and that's a good enough reason for me to DM with it.
@nxdefiant Hear you loud and clear: I should get with the times, or at least be open to it.
I was so hurt by 4E, but I gotta move on.
Oh don't let me discourage you! I still play 3.5 with some friends who just prefer it. To each according to their need!
Ah, gotcha. That makes much more sense haha.