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Sheinbaum rejects US ‘invasion’ after Trump orders military to target Mexico cartels
(www.theguardian.com)
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Mexico has no military that could stop the US. Maybe sanctions...but it's not like saying "no" ever stopped Mango Mussolini.
Mmmmm, don't be too sure.
Yeah, the US has the drones and the tanks and the planes. Remember how well that went in Afghanistan? Iraq, anyone?
They can invade the country and overrun it in seconds, I have no doubt about that. Then, though, the fun starts.
Mexicans, especially those in the cartels, have very creative ways to make people really really regret stepping in the wrong direction.
How many videos of US soldiers slowly being cut into pieces alive and then hung from a bridge, posted on TikTok, do you think it'll take before his base starts getting a very big knot in their stomach?
Then what do you think cartel soldiers already in the US will do? How do you think the Latino community in the US will respond?
If the US invades México, it will destroy México, have no doubt about that.
It will also absolutely end Trump and the US.
Maybe Mexico should be in NATO now.
Don't forget: one side's soldiers present a far larger target area...
"betcha they won't see me, Sarge"
The Taliban didn't have a military that could stop the US either. How did that work out again?
They have enough to hurt a lot.
And they should have a nice big defensive WALL 🤣
And so far America has paid for it!
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If the US invades Mexico it'll overrun it within a day, no doubt. However, look at Afghanistan, Iraq. Look at how the US got beat every time. Now remember what cartels do with their enemies and imagine how many soldiers hanging from bridges it would take for the US to call it quits. Remember how many cartel soldiers there already are in the US. What do you think the Latino community will do once the US army starts the eventual murder of innocent Mexican citizens...
The US invading México will end Mexico, it will also end the US
the US invading -anyone- who isn't already seen as an enemy of the nation by the PEOPLE of the nation, will trigger an actual shooting civil war.
and by that I mean, there aren't very many countries that the majority of American people truly see as an enemy, so thats basically Russia, Iran, North Korea, to some extent China. and a bunch of countries from the middle east , central america and southeast asia who have varying histories of things vaguely "islamist, terrorist, or communist"
Mexico, and Literal Allies like Canada and other NATO countries, are not on that list. starting a war with someone not on that list, will be a signal to everyone in America who isn't a brown nosing collaborator, that their own government is rogue and has to be toppled.
I would agree if I hadn't seen already so much complacency. People just don't give a shit and act like the frog in the slowly heating up pan. I'd hope you're right but I am not so sure
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And the US would still lose, because that is what the US does best.
Yeah, it can invade the shit out of everywhere, but it never has been able to keep what it invaded. As soon as the dead bodies start coming back, politicians start screaming.
México can't stop the US from invading, of course, but guerilla warfare? Bring it on. US soldiers will be hanging from bridges and videos will be posted everywhere, it will be ugly. It will be the same as in Afghanistan, and they didn't have a lack of tech there, there weren't any logistics issues as the US simply has the best logistics of any army in the world.
Then there is the fact that the US has enormous Latino communities which will start pushing back at the least, fighting back more likely. This van lest to an uprising in their own country.
Invading México will destroy Mexico, but it will also tear the US to oieces
they're not talking about mexico or the cartels militarily defeating or resisting america, they're talking about america, thats a tinderbox that people feel is teetering on civil war for a long time now, will tear itself apart if a regime like MAGA starts shooting wars with its own neighbors.
the American people may have a deep distaste of the cartels, and want them dead, but they dont want Mexico attacked and blown up like they want for Iran, North Korea, China... and for a while until the gangsters came to power, Russia. There's no appetite for war. and opposition to Trump / Fascists know that war is a permanent seizure of power.
enough people saw what happened in Star Wars. people may be vapid and consumed by pop culture, but they're not totally stupid
They have a whole lot of people who could pass as someone genuinely from the US underclass for long enough to get into a shopping mall or some legislatures with an automatic weapon.
And a border long enough that they can't be efficiently stopped, especially as the front overtakes them. Look at Russia and Ukraine and a third of the Russian strategic airforce in flames.
Ukraine has the benefit of bordering a powerful alliance that is giving them weapons, Mexico does not.
Guatemala, Belize, and boats from Cuba are nowhere near the same thing as getting literal trainloads of heavy weapons and fighting vehicles through Poland.
comparing Mexican/Cartel resistance to an aggressive America, is not even in the same conversation as the bumbling fuckwit Russian invasion of Europe.
I am with you until the last sentence.
In an actual war, the US would take Mexico in half a day. The US military is far more competent than Russsia. But holding it is another matter.
There would be insurgents for decades and you are absolutely right that it would spill over into the domestic United States. I would be an absolute disaster.