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Goat and PugJesus take on DB0 ADMINS
(lemmy.world)
Starting with this post:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/44999037
Continues here:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/45035437
More posts discussing the fallout:
Dbzer0 admin claiming Uyghur genocide is 'overblown and misrepresented'
Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because "libs worse", yikes
Banned from meanwhileongrad for "No db0 allowed".
Removed false allegations against goat from a post on db0
Another anarchist ~~tankie~~ did a write-up of the situation
More links: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52444570
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/329886
The SPDs record is anti-democratic, they used elections to legitimize themselves then unleashed paramilitaries to crush organized workers. That’s not taking ‘democracy seriously,’ that’s narrowing what it means to protect the state.
Revolutionary democracy is more than just fucking ballots and voting. The entire point is mass participation, self organization and ongoing struggle.
The January uprising wasn’t a Bolshevik-style coup. It was a mass revolt sparked by SPD repression, which the KPD didn’t even plan and which Luxemburg herself thought was premature.
‘history major’
The elections hadn't happened yet. That's what the Spartacist uprising was trying to prevent - upcoming elections that they were not even barred from running in.
But tell me more about how the only response to an anti-democratic coup was to roll over and let the People's Fascists(tm) execute everyone and suppress democracy.
Curious that seems to so often be an excuse to disregard the clearly expressed will of the vast majority of the population. It turns out that your "Revolutionary democracy" actually means "A vanguardist clique whose conclusions are always referred to as the will of the people, no matter how many people actually express opposition".
The KPD literally voted on the subject, lmao. Talk about ignorance - or willingly spreading lies. It's difficult to tell with fascists.
Yes, Luxemburg herself thought it was a bad idea and voted against it. Luxemburg voted, in fact, to participate in the upcoming elections, which is, according to red fascists like you, bourgeois. Damn that neolib Luxemburg!
She was outvoted by the KPD leadership, which preferred a coup.
Yes, it is quite apparent that you, like so many other fascists, are 'tired of experts' getting in the way of your masturbatory totalitarian fantasies.
The whole “Bolshevik coup” line is just historical revisionism. Even the Prussian government’s own inquiry admitted the January events weren’t plotted by the KPD — it was mass strikes and councils spiraling beyond anyone’s control
If your idea of “democracy” is ballots in one hand and Freikorps in the other, you’re just proving my point.
The roman empire guy who hangs out at the nazi bar curated by the nazi goat sending unsolicited asshole pictures is in no position to call anyone a fascist lmao
Holy fucking shit, even your apologism is pathetic. Citing Heinrich August Winkler as proof against the KPD's coup, when Winkler was one of the most prominent voices against GDR apologism for the Spartacist Uprising? What, did the councils put a gun to Karl Liebknecht's head and make him and dozens of other KPD leaders vote for escalating the protests into a coup attempt?
The Freikorps were widely distrusted by the SPD, but like I said - you think that the only response to an attempted fascist coup should have been for the SPD to present themselves for execution. Fascists like you love it when democracy gives up without any attempt to fight back.
"You can't call anyone a fascist, you" [checks notes] "posted in a comm where tankies were criticized"
Yeah, that about tracks for fascist bootlickers like you. Does the blood of the genocided taste good, or is it the leather that you truly love?
You seem mad, maybe if you re-read the source you would see that I cited one of the top Luxemburg scholars alive today, who was in turn citing the original 1919 inquiry itself.
'history major'
You seem illiterate; if you re-read the source you would see it attempts to cite Heinrich August Winkler in support of its position despite his well-known opposition to that kind of KPD apologism. If you were literate, you might also note that nowhere does the report or the article (despite its attempt at apologism) refute the idea that the Spartacist Uprising was an attempted coup along Bolshevik lines approved by and participated in by the KPD. You, on the other hand, say
And then attempt to cite a source that says nothing to support you - but it sounded nice and asspatting towards the KPD, so of course your illiterate ass loved it.
Yes, I get it, you despise education. You made it clear the first time.
It literally has a passage from the report in it, that's the citation. It references Winkler at the end but he's not the source.
From the actual 1919 inquiry:
spoiler
The accusation you made was it was a centrally plotted KPD bolshevik coup, when the evidence from the time shows that it was not.
You've got it wrong, I despise the way you behave while acting like you're educated. Should have been clear the first time.
Sweetie, your illiteracy is showing again. This is the accusation I made, and I quote:
Sorry that you're incapable of parsing any sentence that isn't asspatting fascism. I understand it's a serious condition.
The way I behave being... calling you out on spreading disinformation in service to fascist ideals?
Wow, what a terrible way for an educated person to act. I see why a fascist bootlicker like you hates it.
does goat send you asshole DMs too?
I just love the extra sprinkling of sexism on display here. Never once in our dozens of comments has PJ called me "sweetie"
lmao yeah that was my cue to disengage and go to bed
You're certainly better at avoiding bait than I am :D
Lmao. Sorry that you can't comprehend calling someone sweetie unless they're female? My post history is full of it. Go ahead, use the search function - ah, what am I saying? Facts are inconvenient little things, I know you despise them.
Sorry, sweetie, that I didn't regard you lowly enough to condescend to until you started engaging in genocide denial and simping for fascism. :)
You used it this way, once, 9 months ago, against a person whose gender I didn't bother to investigate.
Sorry, I know that's higher than you can count and more words than you can read.
This validates what I said.
First one is not the same use
Second one is the one I mentioned
third is not the same use or the same word
fourth one is a different word and not the same use
That's the kind of response I would expect from someone who's incapable of reading what I wrote.
But no, I've been lucky enough to be spared that, though Goat doing so caused me to unsubscribe from MOG.
Ew.
Dude. Just fucking stop. This is going way beyond into pretty disgusting territory.
Edited to add: Your "response" is noted. Not into the casual sexism, and I find it extremely odd that you had no idea about goat. Just going to go ahead and save myself the headache now and block.