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[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

So long as conservatives continue to exert exceptional effort to try and erase LGBT identity, people should attack Christian identity in equal measure. Tear down billboards with gospel on them. Deface publicly displayed crucifixes. Burn bibles in public.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That is what they want.

Right wing shitheads have been trying to paint themselves as the victims for decades. "The War On Christmas" being one of the best examples. And as much fun as it would be to burn down a church (but not Korean Jesus, that dude is okay), all it will do is provide them the evidence they have been trying to manufacture all this time.

Because news media won't be reporting "As retaliation for the murder of a trans person, a bible was ceremonially burned". It will be "The fucking gays are burning your bibles, go get them"

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

They've been riding their train of manufactured victimhood and rage for decades and found great success, they don't strictly need a reason to abuse people.

Staying your hand because your enemy might get angry and retaliate is the mindset of the battered housewife. People should stand up for themselves even if that means violence in the end.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -1 points 5 months ago

Ignoring the sexism bordering on mild misogyny:

We've literally seen how this plays out. Walz calls trump "weird". fuckface calls for the murder of Kamala. "Both sides traded barbs".

The vast majority of christians don't actually hate The Gays. They insist "I don't approve of your lifestyle but I tolerate you"/"I don't respect or tolerate you but I also don't want to consider myself a bigot". It is why "bathroom bans" and the like are so popular. They are a direct attack on people's very self and a way to remove their ability to function in society but they also don't immediately seem like hate unless you think for even a few seconds.

But once The Gays are outright attacking christianity? Guess what? "Both sides traded barbs" becomes "They are literally coming to destroy your beliefs" and it is a literal holy war.

Or, to go back to your sexism: People love the idea of a victim standing up for themselves. When they do? Suddenly it just becomes "they are both a mess" or "they deserve each other" rather than "She finally struck back after her third visit to the emergency room".

Everyone wants to act. Not acting is the definition of helplessness. But it is also worth understanding that retaliation is a thing. The call of duty generation loves the idea of being heroic guerilla fighters who scream "wildcats" every five seconds. But it is worth looking at the actual "stay behind armies" and how so much of their equipment and doctrine was designed around resistance without ever pushing things far enough to lead to genocide and eradication. Whether that would have been successful is a very controversial topic but... that is the idea.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Ignoring the sexism bordering on mild misogyny:

Lol. Ok Stretch Armstrong.

The vast majority of christians don’t actually hate The Gays.

If you vote to hurt someone, you hate them. This isn't complicated.

But once The Gays are outright attacking christianity? Guess what? “Both sides traded barbs” becomes “They are literally coming to destroy your beliefs” and it is a literal holy war.

Shit. So you're saying if we just left the Nazis alone they would have tolerated the Jews? Lol. I like how you consider direct Christian attacks on LGBTQ people as "tolerance". They are already actively degrading the quality of life of LGBTQ people. Do you expect people to just sit by and be subjugated in the hopes that they won't be subjugated harder if they do something?

to go back to your sexism

Oof. You are trying so hard.

People love the idea of a victim standing up for themselves. When they do? Suddenly it just becomes “they are both a mess”

What planet do you live on? When a battered housewife (oh no I'm a sexist now) stands up for herself, I don't think she's a mess. What kind of fucked up logic is that? I'm happy for her.

But it is also worth understanding that retaliation is a thing.

Yes, it's a good thing when you are being oppressed. You are typing lots of words in defense of people not defending themselves. I'm not sure what's wrong with your brain, but you should fix it or find someone that can help you fix it.

[-] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Don't forget to remove churches from your communities..

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I believe in proportionality. So long as their current actions stay in damaging inanimate symbols that's where it should stay. If they were to Remove places significant to LGBT+, then I'd consider it. If they were to start straight up shooting LGBT+ people, well...

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

These crosswalks were painted specifically in honor of the Pulse massacre where 50 LGBT+ people were murdered in 2016. 25 were injured or killed in a shooting in a Colorado Springs gay bar in 2022.

The shooting has been happening for years already.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago

The Pulse shooter wasn’t a Christian, so that’s not really a good reason to start tearing down and burning churches.

Which, I can’t believe I need to say this, is bad. I grew up in a small community that embraced Christian homophobic and transphobic abuse as a virtue, I think Christianity on the whole is more negative than positive, and I still wouldn’t destroy a random church because it’s a church. That is fash shit. You don’t target random places of worship because that’s the religion of your enemy. What is this shit.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Christian billionaires do fund a lot of the anti gay conspiracy media. I would specifically focus on those entities.

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