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Get an E-Bike (hexbear.net)

It's marginal gains all the way here but genuinely if you're an omnivore the E-Bike might work out more enviromentally conscious

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[-] Des@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i'm genuinely blown away by how much range they can get with a small battery pack

you could strap a few spares onto the bike and fill your backpack up and go like 1000 miles. even easier if you stay on power assist level 1 or 2.

this must be some breakthrough level where the energy density of li-ion batteries being so much less then gasoline is canceled out by the human muscle power combined with how light a bike + motor is.

i mean no old school moped is going to take you 1000 miles with a gallon of gas in a backpack. or maybe? either way i would rather deal with a simple electric motor then an annoying 2 stroke

but yeah rented some with my partner in the spring and rode a rail trail and it was the most fun we've had in years. it's the closest to a powered exoskeleton i've ever experienced. a family member is about to get rid of their cargo e bike and i may be able to get it for free soon.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

maybe not a moped but proper gas motorcycles can hit 70+mpg (city?), aero starts to matter at highway speeds, which is why electric touring motorcycles probably still don't exist.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

is it just because ebikes generally are going 15-30 mph? because they seem really efficient even compared to motorcycles

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

it's weight at low speeds and then not having the high speeds' drag when you never go all that fast. people generally don't want the e-moto for a 100 mile trip because they're trying to do it in less than four hours and none of the constraints really work out for that.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

as well as the low(er) speeds bicycles in general are just really good at weight vs. transportable weight. I mean you can fit like 5 people and luggage in a car, for example, say what, 800kg of load? Even if you do this in a like a Gen 1 Twingo, miserable as that might be, you'd be looking at about 1:1 car weight vs. transported weight.

a 30kg E-bike has little problem transporting a 100kg perso, so more like 3:1 on that front.

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They do, but the range is still an issue

They claim this one goes up to 400 km on a charge.

https://shop.energicamotor.com/en/pages/energica-experia

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

huh 400km isn't too bad compared to a goldwing

sign into vimeo

lmao

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Didn't notice the 'Sign in to vimeo' before lmao.

It'll take 4 hours at least to recharge. This is an exeptional range. Most of the electric tourers get up to 250.

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