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[-] Photuris@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Fine, but I don’t want the smart features to be installed at all in the first place.

I don’t want a WiFi antenna or Ethernet port in there.

I know that sounds ridiculous, since I can “simply not use them,” but I want to spend my money on an appliance, not a consumer data collection tool.

I don’t want them to have any of my data, and I don’t want to spend money “voting” with my dollar for these data collection devices.

Some of these devices have even been known to look for other similar devices within WiFi range, and phone home that way (i.e., send analytics data via a neighbor’s connected TV as a proxy).

Fuuuck that. I don’t want my dollar supporting this, at all, plain and simple. And I don’t want to pay a premium for the privilege of buying a technically simpler device. I do, but it’s bullshit, and I’m unhappy about it.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

I know that sounds ridiculous, since I can “simply not use them,” but I want to spend my money on an appliance, not a consumer data collection tool.

For what it's worth you're actually spending the manufacturer's money (or at least some of their profit margin) on a data collection device that they won't get to use.

Smart devices are cheaper because the data collection subsidizes them.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Some of these devices have even been known to look for other similar devices within WiFi range, and phone home that way (i.e., send analytics data via a neighbor’s connected TV as a proxy).

Ummm, wut? I'm going to need some quality sources to back this claim up.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Yea, this paragraph feels like fear mongering. I'm not saying OP didn't see that somewhere, but from a tech standpoint, the TV still has to authenticate with any device it's trying to piggy back off the wifi for. Perhaps if there were any open network in range it could theoretically happen, but I'm guessing that it's not.

I do remember reading that some smart TV was able to use the speakers as a mic to record in room audio and pass that out if connected. It may have been a theoretical thing but it might have been a zero day I read about. It's been some years now.

[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 week ago

I totally get where you're coming from. It's hard to find devices like that. I think the issue is that regular customers are demanding the smart features, and using them without caring about privacy aspects.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

Honestly? Get a large monitor and a sound bar.

[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 1 week ago

Some of these devices have even been known to look for other similar devices within WiFi range, and phone home that way (i.e., send analytics data via a neighbor’s connected TV as a proxy).

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Your tv price is subsidized by the presence of those network connections. I recommend using universal remote.

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