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[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I have been out of the loop for a good long while, I had no idea that Mongo had gone full Oracle. It’s a shame, I really liked the idea of Mongo in the early days.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Not really full oracle. The SSPL is the next step after GPL and AGPL, so basically anti-oracle. Anyone can use, distribute and provide SSPL software... as long as they publish their code as well. Seems fair to me.

[-] F04118F@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

That's how they're trying to sell it. But why did Elastic and Redis drop SSPL if it was so good, and why did OSI not accept it as open source? The answers are here but the TLDR is that SSPL is vague and, as a consequence, makes it risky to provide a service with the product, unless you are large enough to make a big lucrative deal with the owner of the product.

This stifles competition and innovation.

Case in point: Mongo DBAs are nearly non-existent outside California and managed MongoDB is much more expensive than managed PostgreSQL/MariaDB services, because it is only offered by 3 providers.

https://www.ssplisbad.com/

[-] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Limiting the number of provider is exactly the point. You either pay the developers or make your code available.

I don't know about Elastic, but redis was accepting contributions so changing the license was very controversial, if not legally questionable. AFAIK mongodb, like sqlite, don't accept contributions.

Big lucrative deal? Just buy a license, like tens of thousands of others do, millions if we include other "code available" products that also offer licenses: red hat, Ubuntu, temporal, different Kafka versions, Postgres, MySQL, etc.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Not really full oracle. The SSPL is the next step after GPL and AGPL, so basically anti-oracle. Anyone can use, distribute and provide SSPL software... as long as they publish their code as well. Seems fair to me...

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