this post was submitted on 09 Sep 2025
77 points (94.3% liked)
MeanwhileOnGrad
2012 readers
15 users here now
"Oh, this is calamity! Calamity! Oh no, he's on the floor!"
Welcome to MoG!
Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post, rather than engaging in unrelated arguments.
Brigading — If you're here because this community was linked in another thread, please refrain from voting, commenting or manipulating the post in any way, this includes alt accounts. All votes are public, and if you are found to be brigading, you will be permanently banned.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
I don't really know who to believe anymore, after the amount of western propoganda going around tbh.
For example, I went to China. Specifically a state-run Church there. And it was normal. The media back here and people kept saying it was purely a propoganda front and "the real believers are underground".
Some said I'd be arrested immediately upon entering (???). I was greeted quite warmly and friendily by all of the officials. Police were lovely, as well as soldiers
My guess is the stuff we read about are isolated incidents. Some are apparently later dealt with. But by the time said isolated incidents make it to western media, the narrative makes it seem like it's a nationwide policy.
The chinese banknotes even have Uyghur and Tibetan languages on it. I also met a Uyghur Muslim who was studying in the UK, so she was clearly allowed to leave the country. They can't hate them that much. Although China does become really paranoid with stuff as well. So I'm not too sure what to believe. Not like I can change anything anyway.
P.S. I also found out a bunch of media I was previously consuming about China was all linked to Li Hongzi, who is an absolute nutcase.
The halved birthrates for the Uyghurs in the last couple of years is a clear sign, they can't suppress that.
Sounds to me like you got the North Korean Tourist treatment.
Everyone's birth rates are rapidly declining.
I don't think I got a north korean tourist treatment. The water went off several times in one day. The Chinese family I stayed with also got the same treatment.
That being said, I'm not making any claims. I just don't trust everything the media says about China anymore.
You visited as a tourist, not as an advocate; of course, you're going to see what you want to see. Next time, you should ask about Tiananmen Square or question police powers, and see what happens
And Australia has Aboriginals on their notes too. What an asinine point.
This sounds exactly like someone defending Israel. Oh, I visited Israel, and there are arabs and Palestinians, and everyone is very happy and friendly. They even have Arabic on their banknotes!
Why should I ask? It's not really any of my business. I don't think you'll have a good time anywhere if you question police powers.
And Australia celebrates it's aboriginals?
Because you're acting like an authority, saying you've been to China and didn't see any of this.
And yes, Australia celebrates its Aboriginals now, but that isn't my point. My point is that it doesn't magically remove the imperialism that minorities face.
I'm not an authority. I'm just giving my own personal experience. I don't think the idea people get from the media is accurate. Every country has it's pros and it's cons. China is no different. It's not North Korea.
long as you admit china is imperialist with human rights abuses we coo
So is the USA, so is the UK, so is Israel, so is Russia, so is Hamas (well not really imperialist).....