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submitted 2 weeks ago by Ulrich@feddit.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

windows is ass. i use only linux now.

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[-] tux0r@feddit.org -4 points 2 weeks ago

I have no idea who that dude is. I won’t follow his example.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

He is some influencer, dont you wanna be influenced by the video people?

Seriously though, Linux doesnt need this guy to speak for it. Its an amazing system. This guy just wants YouTube views. Whatever. :)

Without Linux, I cant imagine using a computer. Its like asking a big American corporation to allow me to log in, knowing its tracking everything i do. THAT is the insanity of using windows mate.

[-] Disgruntled@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

He used to review Android phones for one of the Android phone sites. I can’t remember if it was Android Police or 9To5 Android.

[-] tux0r@feddit.org -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Its like asking a big American corporation to allow me to log in, knowing its tracking everything i do.

You are aware that, unlike (e.g.) OpenBSD, Linux is (legally) an American product, right?

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sure. But you probably know that big tech companies like Microsoft and Google spies on their users using the operating system, and makes changes to those said operating systems in order to collect as much private data as possible.

Its a very big difference compared to using Linux. Sure, most of it is American companies. But you have a lot of choice in the Linux world. Its not the same. I think you know this? Otherwise you have a lot of good things to find out about. :)

[-] tux0r@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago

You have increasingly less choice in the Linux world though. Thank you, Lennart Poettering.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Heh, true. But even systemd is a choice, kind of. Even though it brings the number of distributions to maybe just a few.

I wanted to try these ones at some point, seems nice:

https://artixlinux.org/

https://voidlinux.org/

[-] Culf@feddit.dk 0 points 2 weeks ago

Wait what is the problem with systemd?

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

There are entire sites dedicated to explaining why they dont like it, like https://nosystemd.org/

But yeah, basically its been replacing more and more separate tools with its own solution, in order to have better integration and one common pane of glass, so to speak. But it also means that it becomes a major target for exploits and bugs.

[-] Culf@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Jinni@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Any reasons you don't want to try? Just curious.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think they mean they already use linux. Or Unix.

[-] tux0r@feddit.org -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I actually had tried a few Linuxen in the past 30 years, and while I still have a soft spot for Gentoo and Void (edit: I love how everyone just ignores this part...), I noticed that Linux distributions have deeply fallen for over-engineering recently, making them not notably better than Windows anymore. Also, migrating from one US product to another makes limited sense to me.

[-] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That's like saying you don't like American cheese, so you won't drive American cars. If you reduce operating systems to a handful of arbitrary traits this way, you may as well roll the dice and pick based on that.

[-] tux0r@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago

I think that the first part of my comment was the more relevant part.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

You think Linux is an American product?

[-] tux0r@feddit.org -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, I think so. But I'm always open to constructive feedback: What kind of product do you think an operating system kernel is, whose development is driven by a US citizen (Linus Torvalds) under the patronage of a US foundation (Linux Foundation) and with significant involvement of several US companies (Red Hat, Microsoft, NSA) and is usually delivered with a whole host of software from US organisations (foremost: GNU), if not a US product?

Yes, of course, Linux has developers from all sorts of countries. But then, so do Windows and macOS.

However, as I wrote below:

I think that the first part of my comment was the more relevant part.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Linux has developers from all sorts of countries. But then, so do Windows and macOS.

Microsoft and Apple are subject to US authority. Linux is not.

[-] tux0r@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago

How exactly are the US-based stewards of Linux development not subject to US authority?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago
[-] tux0r@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

You skipped my question. Let me repeat it: What kind of product do you think an operating system kernel is, whose development is driven by a US citizen (Linus Torvalds) under the patronage of a US foundation (Linux Foundation) and with significant involvement of several US companies (Red Hat, Microsoft, NSA) and is usually delivered with a whole host of software from US organisations (foremost: GNU), if not a US product?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

You skipped my question: How exactly are the US-based stewards of Linux development subject to US authority?

[-] tux0r@feddit.org -3 points 2 weeks ago

Microsoft is subject to US authority, because they’re legally US-based. So are Linus Torvalds and the kernel foundation.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Microsoft is subject to US authority because they're a US-based business. Meaning the gov can fine them or take away their business license or demand access to information they have stored, or any number of other things that Linux is simply not subject to, because they're not a business and don't store any user data at all.

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