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I mean shit, there's some validity to that argument at times.
Yeah they might not technically be lying, but they are really trying their hardest to make themselves look like fucking zionist defenders sometimes.
Really? I have seen the evidence of the opposite.
Whats the lie there?
Bias by omission. They retracted their calling Hamas a terrorist organization and other than that "slip" have never called them that.
They also mislead by always quoting from "Gaza Health Ministry" instead of from Hamas who run the Ministry. This gives the impression they writing from a reliable. The Al Ahli hospital fraud shows it is far from reliable.
I could go on but I doubt anyone here is interested in muddying the water when they have a black and white narrative to defend. And it is getting off topic anyhow.
The point is that no source is 100% reliable but I would argue that BBC is as reliable as it gets (unfortunately).
Forensic architecture research has shown that it was Israel who bombed El Ahli hospital.
BBC is literally famous for saying "Hamas run health ministry". Which is a Zionist adjective because they do not do it for Israel (which has lied plenty about their casualty count)
Strange you bring up the hospital bombing after Israel literally bombed a hospital by the way.
No forensics are needed because the hospital was not hit by anyone. That is just a further lie.
There was footage the next day taken by a Gazan of the hospital showing it unscathed except for a small crater in the carpark. There were shattered windows in a nearby chapel. Unfortunately there were people camped in the carpark so about 20 people died (not 500 as Hamas lied).
Notice that Hamas didn't even release any footage of any damaged building let alone AlAhli hospital. They didn't even have to try because media around the world lapped it up without question.
There was also footage of the rocket barrage by the PIJ streamed live by Al Jazeera which showed one of the rockets boomeranging and a citizen's footage showing similar closer by.
I was outraged by the recent double tap of the hospital looking rescuers. Even if there was a Hamas base there it is inexcusable.
Apparently Hamas documents have been found last week showing their basing themselves in hospitals.
I can back up the above but I doubt people in this thread are interested in such messy departure from any narrative which isn't black and white.
That is so much misinformation I am not going to bother responding. Everything you typed is a lie. Go look up the Forensic Architecture report.
There are no photos in the report of hospital building damage which is what was claimed by Hamas.
AFAIK There is also no news story from that day displaying damage to Al Ahli hospital either.
Hamas say 471 people were killed and 342 injured. There is no way to fit that many in that car park. Here is a video by a Gazan the morning after.
The Forensic Architecture report has been debunked.
Say no more.
Can you go over the Al Ahli hospital explosion?
Yes, the person said that Destiny, who sexted a age 16 or 17 year old, is not a pedophile, but an ephebophile.
Fun fact, there is no difference.
What about countries where the age of consent is 16? You'll find most of the world decides 16 is the minimum age.
Regardless, go over the Al Ahli Hospital explosion.
It used to be 7 in the UK 200 years ago.
Israel bombed a hospital and Hamas invited journalists to investigate and Israel blocked them.
Then Israel said it was not them and they would never bomb a hospital. That was around 20 hospitals ago and bombing a hospital because they saw journalists.
Neither Israel nor Hamas ever bombed the Al Ahli Hospital. It was determined to be a malfunctioning PIJ rocket
It was determined it was Israel. And it is always Israel.
That's verifiably false
What does the sub matter? Look at the contents of that post.
Never heard of Destiny before. I just found that thread with Google but you got me curious.
he has promoted the idea that college campuses should have students who have diverse opinions in order to reduce polarization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destiny_%28streamer%29
Thanks. I may join the sub now.
He made a stupid comment during the George Floyd protests though. Am trying to find out if he recanted.
Destiny is also a notorious sex offender and pedophile.
He isn't a pedo. He says a 23yo with a 16yo isn't pedophilia. Which is technically true: it is ephebophilia. He seems to have been baiting outrage.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/11uvamp/i_dont_understand_the_value_in_destinys/
He hasn't been convicted of sexual abuse AFAIK but he certainly does seem dodgy on that front...
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1h6nvdj/why_is_nobody_concerned_about_the_streamer/
That sub should rename itself to distance itself from such behavior. Don't think I want to add to its karma by joining or participating. So thanks for the warning.
Still doesn't invalidate the debunking of that report though.
"No no, I'm not a pedo, to prove it, I looked pedophilia in a dictionary! It's actually ephebophilia! ...You don't care that I used a new word? Well, I was just doing it as a joke! It's your fault you'd think I would molest a minor!"
When someone rapes a minor as a joke, someone still raped a minor.
Why are you using zio? That's a term coined by David Duke to refer to jews. Where'd you learn that?
Some antisemitic guy referred to Jews as Zionists? Wow that is crazy.
Why are you protecting Zionists on your community who advocate for genocide? He is admitting it himself.
"Zio" is a term coined by David Duke long before this current conflict, and instead of saying 'Oh, my bad, I won't use Zio,' you refer to him as just some antisemitic guy, he's the leader of the KKK.
Why are you defending David Duke and calling him just some guy? And more importantly, will you admit that you will no longer use Zio now that you know the origins of the word?
Source?
Here
You need to stop using it