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That looks super cool but I do think I specifically need Matlab since that's what I've prototyped some ideas in already (I have an old crack but there are some new specialized toolboxes I want to use or at least try out which require a new version of matlab which these cracks claim to have and I don't see an equivalent in SciLab).
Basically, if I can get a new crack of Matlab working to use the new toolboxes, I can rapidly iterate through and test some ideas. If not, I was going to have to dig into some other open source tools which is going to be way more effort.
Or Python. Nobody uses MATLAB because they will basically sequester your research data and experiments behind a pay wall.
These days you look for a new device for your lab, experiment or production and you look for the Python interface. No Python interface? GTFO then good luck selling anything.
What are you doing specifically? When I got my engineering degree I was able to do everything I needed in Python, including a replacement for simulink.
It's for a musical project. I wanted a very specific effect applied to some vocals I sang. I couldn't find any tools that did what I wanted, asked on various forums over the years but every pre-built tool someone recommended failed to achieve the effect I was imagining. Out of frustration I ended up writing something myself in Matlab to postprocess a vocal line I recorded and I quite liked the results! (And I know I could have used Python for that but I like Matlab.
Up to this point Matlab was just a personal preference. But then I decided I wanted to experiment with applying that effect in real-time, which would mean creating my own audio unit and throwing it into my DAW, and went looking for ways to make one. Turns out Matlab's got a command for it since 2022b! https://www.mathworks.com/help/audio/audio-plugin-creation-and-hosting.html. so if I could get my hands on it, that would be by far the easiest and quickest way to experiment more with it.
I learned a couple days ago that there are open source tools designed for making AUs -- Cabbage, Faust -- but I've never used them. Since I already have the Matlab code and am familiar with Matlab, I thought it would be nice to just use that toolbox for a quick first pass. It probably wouldn't take long to port it to pyhon, but I've found no Python libraries that can generate an audio unit (without wrapping around what's in the next sentence, which is extra work). There's a C++ library called JUCE that can but I find C++ frustrating and don't have a good dev environment set up for it anymore.
The musical project, by the way, is a mix of a shitpost and a passion project and will never see a cent of earnings, so I cannot justify paying Mathwork's high prices.
That was your first mistake. It's never to late to stop making the same mistake.
But I like Matlab :(
OK the toolboxes can be difficult to find 1:1 replacements for, but you can find plugins for most things in SciLab so you don't need to reinvent the wheel. The general workflow is very similar to MATLAB, but not identical so there is of course a learning curve. Everyone I know is more or less weaning off MATLAB because it's just too damn expensive and locked to their platform.