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thrown away animal-based food
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this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2025
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Veganism is the belief that non-human animal pain and suffering is as valid as human pain and suffering, that the right to exercise their own will is a right for all animals. It's not some vibe based "communing with nature" or whatever it's about animal liberation. The reason vegans seem so combative is because there's a principled stance behind it and not just "i think animals are really cute I could nevar!!"
I don't care for your support for "veganism". It means jack and I spit on supposed allies that still are part of the baby killing machine. Their cheers mean nothing if they don't stop killing newborns, worse than nothing they think it absolves them somehow??
I also don't care about your opinions on how to convince others to become vegan when you can't even convince yourself. I know how I got convinced and it wasn't people hemming and hawing about the animal genocide but centering the non-human animals and keeping the focus on them.
congratulations you just explained why I basically said its not vegan in a traditional sense, and what OP is thinking about is closer to a sect in vegetarianism. unless you read my intitial post in a completely different way as I kind of explicitly said it isnt veganism.
It doesnt require a vegan to say what OP is saying is not vegan
your definition by the way isn't completely vegan either. as veganism includes not eating any byproduct of an animal, so milk and honey for example, are not vegan, despite it not necessarily doing physical pain and suffering to the animal.
Okay... but what about the male calves? Does a bolt to the head or a knife to the throat at a few hours, days, or weeks old not cause suffering to the animal?
the odd assumption you guys are making is you assumed i was talking about a commercial sense. do you not see the conclusions you automatically jumped to without me having not mentioned a single thing about farming involved in the situation.
unless you believe in the ghastly picture that male calves all roam wild with bolts on their head and knoves at their throat.
no ones defending commecialization farming of animals. not even myself.
you do know how a cow has milk, right? She's pregnant or just given birth. They're not gonna let the calf drink the milk, because that milk is for us. Whether that's on a factory farm, or whether that's on a farm where the farmer "cares" about his animals. (protip: he doesn't)