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submitted 1 year ago by jeanma@lemmy.ninja to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Ranting, especially on work made by the community* is bad, i know but my frustration comes because it has not be like that. systemd is bloat, madness ...

Linux has improved on so many front, is better than ever but this pile of crap is threatening everything.

*systemd is IBM, so not really community, so it's fine :)

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[-] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

It's such a weird state of things. It seems like if the debian devs weren't so bone-headed they would just accept that here are some people (some who are previous debian devs themselves) willing to put forth the effort to allow people to have a choice. Debian itself would thrive from the additional choices but instead they seem to want to dictate to everyone else what path is right for them, and that sounds an awful lot like the Ubuntu way.

[-] notabot@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Oh absolutely. I resent SystemD more for the damage it did to the community than the boneheaded design decisions and buggy code.

The ridiculous part is that the Debian devs are putting in some effort to keep multiple init systems working, they're just not talking about it. As you say, people knowing about it would help Debian thrive.

[-] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

At this point I don't think it really matter who thinks which system is better. The technical aspects are irrelevant as long as they work in a manner that completes the tasks. I certainly find no difference in boot times between systems that were loaded up with older releases pre-systemD, and systems that were freshly installed with systemD as the only init. Oddly I DID find one hell of a difference on a raspberry pi when I installed raspbian with systemD and it took nearly a minute and a half to boot, then I converted it to sysV and it booted in 15 seconds. These days most of the boot times I pay attention to, however, are on bare-metal servers which are now taking five freaking minutes just to get up to grub, so the difference of a minute is OS boot time is now completely meaningless.

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