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[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

The world would look the same way it does now with or without objective morality. Objective morality is just the idea that moral truths exist independent of individual beliefs. E.g., that raping babies is an inherently immoral thing regardless of an individual's feelings about it

Again though, I personally don't believe this. I just won't claim to know that there is no objective morality. No one can know that, the same way no one can know that there's no god, or anything else unfalsifiable

The best argument I've heard for it, from a moral philosophy professor and personal friend of mine, is (paraphrasing) "I know for a fact that genocide is inherently wrong, and I'm not open to debating that. It's just true."

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

What would it mean that it's 'inherently' wrong, though? Where would the judgement come from? And if it does come from somewhere (eg evolutionary psychology, a god), doesn't that make it just the subjective morality of that thing?

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago
[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

The way it was explained to me was as analogous to maths. Idk much mathematical theory, but there are supposedly mathematical truths inherent to the universe, and this argument for morality is similar- that it doesn't come from somewhere, it just is. I don't think 'judgement' has anything to do with it, bc that would be subjective like you said

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Maths is objective, yes. But maths is an 'is', while morality is an 'ought'. And you can't get an ought from an is without subjective values. And while maths is objective, any individual's understanding of it may be inaccurate.

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