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The Liberal Abandonment Of Greta Thunberg
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Greta could have become a very rich liberal grifter.
keep them Davos cheques coming in.
instead she's risking her life to help those humanity has abandoned.
respect
And you got leftist piling on liberals for some reason
Edit: oh shit I'm in .ml my bad(not really) lol hey at least you don't ban dissent I guess
Edit 2: Leftists once again can't see the forest for the trees with your ideological purity test pitted against defeating a common enemy. For people so smart you really need to understand that your power lies with NUMBERS
Liberals are not leftists or allies, you object to "purity tests" because you know you'll fail them
how much time you got
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“For some reason”
Liberals in the US are MAGA enablers. To the last individual.
Yeah what and you're going to resist the us gov with what percent of the population?
liberals will do nothing to resist
We can leave USA & support countries where leftists have a stronger presence. Let US implode under right-wing fascism
Coward
Big talk for a liberal
Well I'm still here and you're still trying to divide my people
This is the funniest shit I've read today, thank you
~90% of the world's population?
Coward
Coward? I'm saying you need friends not enemies
Fascists and their enablers are not our friends.
I'm not a fascist enabler. I believe in personal liberty above all
"Personal liberty" is what allows capitalists to exploit us. They have all the "liberty" you think you have. The "liberty" to put lies in the media, to pay you less than the value of your labor in order to extract a profit, to charge extortionist prices for healthcare and other basic needs, to influence politics and to crush competing public industries. These are all the things that "liberty" gets you under capitalism. "Personal liberty above all" != working class liberation.
So there's no liberty under communism? I'd say class freedom is extreme liberty
Communism operates under what was referred to by Marx as a 'dictatorship of the proletariat', which we regard as complete liberation of the working class, because it allows the public to have control which is simply not possible under the liberal framework of "personal liberty for all". Under the liberal framework, even the smallest most democratic intervention is decried as "government overreach"; that is, if it is even made democratically possible in the first place.
Which isn't totally incorrect, because what you're talking about isn't "personal liberty for all". You exclude billionaires. Us socialists/communists exclude capitalists as a whole, because the sole interest of a capitalist is to enrich themselves at the direct expense of the working class and our liberty. Billionaires are certainly the worst and most visible offenders, but a materialist lens allows one to see that each and every capitalist serves interests that are fundamentally in conflict with those of the working class. To operate any other way would be to betray their own interests.
Liberation will only come when the working class has the power to decide collectively how our resources will be used, which will only come when we control the means of production, which will eventually lead to the capitalist class becoming completely obsolete. Liberation means being able to provide for our needs above anything else; for the sake of our humanity alone, and from the work that we are already doing; rather than our labor power being extracted for private gains and our needs provided only to the extent that it serves capitalists' profit motives.
Lol k
For some reason?
Wym some reason? Y'all get off too easy imo.
Stop with the woe is me shit, you know perfectly well how complicit y'all are.
Wait so Greta is a liberal and doing right but other liberals are enables but leftists are ... checks notes... circle jerking themselves to completion over a captured "ally"? Make it make sense
Greta is very clearly not a liberal. She's been very vocally anticapitalist these past few years.
You can be liberal and anticapitalist
You quite literally cannot. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism.
No, it's not
Shitlibs even too lazy for wikipedia
People who call themselves liberal are not economic liberal you completely dense morons. In the sense that the government can't seize your shit for no reason well ddduuuuhhhhh MOST people are going to feel that way that doesn't mean we can't tax the shit out of billionaires or drag them out into the street
"I believe in personal liberty over economic system"
A billionaire is no longer a person
A millionaire with 999M$ is a person but +1$ make him not a person anymore? How you judge that? Where is the line in this shit ideology that the personal liberty above all stops people to gain more riches?
Lol
Profit does not supercede personal liberty
You not wanting to understand what we're telling you does not make us the morons.
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Doesn't it? Where do you draw the line between taxes and government seizure, especially in the context of capital owners? Also, wouldn't it be far more effective for the government to simply own the means of production and operate at the behest of the people? Does taxing capitalists more while still allowing them to have full control over the means of production - which they'll use to influence the people and government in their favor - not simply set up the same situation we find ourselves in now, just some amount of time down the road?
I would say it does set that up (in fact it has in the past, just look at what was in the new deal and how it's been eroded since it was signed. Assuming you're familiar with US history...), and that is why liberalism is incompatible with anti-capitalism.
No, liberalism means INDEPENDENT of the economic system I believe in personal liberty. Billionaires shitting on everything INTERFERES with my and my peoples personal liberty therefore it must be destroyed
You might feel that way, but committed ideological liberals would strongly disagree with you.
Read a book
What do you want me to read "the extensive guide to felating Carl marx while ignoring real life and confirming my own bias"? Okay
Yeah sounds like a good place to start lol
Sure, if you ignore the meaning of both of those words.
Go on I'll wait
Shitlibs even too lazy for wikipedia
I'm not economically liberal