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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Ukrainian_counteroffensive
I asked for a counter-argument, not a lazy link that only serves to support the other person's argument! Come on, man, you can do better than that! Show me what you got!
You get what you pay for. The 2023 counteroffensive was a total flop. It was so bad that Prigozhin's whole mercenary company walked away from the front lines and marched on Moscow without costing Russia an iota of stolen territory.
You could learn how and why it failed, if you bothered to read the finer details. But you've chosen to be a cheerleader for a disastrous management of the world's fifth largest military instead. Might as well announce you're a die-hard fan of William McClellan as defend the Ukrainian top brass.
Why are you defining Ukraine's performance over on one battle? That's like saying the Allies lost World War 2 because they lost the Battle of France, Singapore and Manila. You are conveniently forgetting the 2022 Kharkiv counteroffensive, the destruction of Russian Black Sea fleet and the ongoing drone campaigns. Those are good planning. The main reason the Ukrainian 2023 offensive flopped was because of intelligence leak and the Russians knew of the plan and had time to dig in. The best comparison to this is the WWII Battle of Kursk and when Rommel attacked first before the British does, because they knew what's coming thanks of intelligence leaks.