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[-] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I referred you to ChatGPT. After I entirely told you what was going to happen: you were going to focus on how effective they were, despite you being just as effective. Guess what you spent your whole comment doing? Complaining about how ineffective they were. So thanks, I guess?

After you had the gall to say you "didn't criticize" people who protested genocide, in a comment full of critising them as "ineffective" and "performative". Even if you didn't then, you are now. It's all same-same. You're saying the same things now as other's, if not you, were saying then. Which was my point you asked for a thing, they did that thing already, it isn't good enough for you because: hypocrisy. So thanks, I guess.

You once again misrepresented me though. Your choice is to shoot for something good, or take bad. That's irrelevant of probability. Will/may it doesn't matter: go for an unknown good, or take one of the known bads. Shoot for the good thing. It has to be deliberate misrepresentatiom at this point.

I don't think any reply you have will be valuable, I understand your position enough to completely predict its behaviour: them ineffective, performative, you strategic, also ineffective.

Ineffective doesn't matter to your position, but is everything to theirs. History has no lessons for you. Other fptp systems have no lessons for you. Anyone that disagrees with you isn't valid: they're "confused", "ineffective", "performative", no lessons there either. No lessons for you anywhere, there are only your values, and there's no empathy to understand other's.

Even after all that, I still get it, the devil you know is at least known. 'Damage control' is a valid position to have. I get it, I really do.

Chatgpt's reply is a bad one, but my last reply was good enough to predict what you were going to do, and it was wasted on you. Anyway, hope the robot gets through:

Yes, it has, fundamentally. Your whole argument rests on the decision to do the thing being inconsequential to the outcome. And yet, that is the reality we live in. You act as though voting blue creates material improvement, when we both agree that genocide continues. If doing “the bad thing” (voting Dem) and not doing it (voting third party) both lead to genocide, then your argument collapses under its own weight — because the outcome doesn’t change, only the story you tell yourself about it.

You keep treating symbolic dissent as “performative,” but voting for genocide because you think it’s strategic is the ultimate performance. It’s the act of saying “I hate this” while continuing to fund, empower, and normalize it. You’re mistaking participation for influence.

I oppose actions which make genocide worse, obviously, because I oppose genocide. And yet you vote for a party that continues it. I get the logic of damage control — I’ve acknowledged it several times. What I don’t get is how you can accept “some genocide” as a strategy. That’s not damage control; that’s complicity with a more polite version of the same harm.

They used effective methods, I applaud them. Those methods weren’t “effective” until they became effective — after years of being ridiculed, arrested, and told their actions were “counterproductive.” You’re praising history while ignoring the lesson it teaches.

Politics is the one field where the little guys are the ones who elect leadership. No — the little guys ratify leadership. They don’t choose it. You’re describing consent manufacturing as choice. You don’t get to blame voters for a system designed to contain them.

Stop trying to make voting do things it doesn’t do. Exactly. Voting doesn’t end genocide. It’s a participation checkbox, not a moral shield. You can vote defensively if you like — that’s your right — but don’t pretend it’s resistance. Resistance is what happens outside the ballot box.

You say you want progress; I do too. But progress doesn’t come from treating moral triage as if it were justice. “Less bad” is not a destination. It’s an anaesthetic.

If you ever decide you want to build something genuinely good, not just postpone the next collapse, you’ll find me there — still doing the good thing, even if “the bad thing may happen anyway.”

this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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