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Why would they have to come in at 7am?
Because fuck you.
Its some kind of American exceptionalism thing we're too normal to understand.
Training courses are during business hours or nobody would show up to them in Australia (and I'm guessing its the same in the UK from your username).
So shafted by their work culture they don't even question the meme..
It is sad but true. I am USAian, and it is a constant battle with co-workers to get them to stand up even a little against dumb mandates. It’s especially frustrating because EVERY DAMN TIME we do push back, management backs down. You’d think they would see the pattern..
A few years ago we were discussing how some companies were trying 4-day weeks and someone said that they'd like to try four 10-hour days instead of five 8-hour.
They could not imagine that it meant working fewer hours.
Yeah, there's billions, maybe trillions or beyond, of dollars' worth of investment put into making sure everyone "Really needs this job." which can be ripped away from them in an instant, so they won't be inclined to risk any "insubordination."
You think American work culture is bad (which it is)? You should see Japanese work culture... the sheer amount of unpaid work they do over there, along with mandatory unpaid socialising, even holding a collection for their bosses and bringing back souvenirs for their colleagues and bosses when they go on holiday somewhere :/
Damn, I used to do that for some coworkers because we were actually friends. I cannot imagine how shitty it would feel to be forced to do that.
Yeah, it's a whole thing, it's called omiyage and it's seen as an apology for your absence and thanking your boss and colleagues for allowing you time off.
...y'know, your entitlement to paid leave.
I wonder how far you could stretch it. Get them all (if you're coming to america, for instance) those little plastic acorns with a little item in it from those coin machines that used to be by every convenience store's doors. Though I haven't seen any of those in ages, so maybe not.
I haven't seen them outside of nerd spaces in years, but the hypothetical coworkers might be entertained by American Gashapon. I think the Japanese ones are always higher quality stuff than ours but there were some entertaining toy lines in those.
Upper management - make sure everyone is in for 9 for training
middle management - fuck better make sure everyone is there, everyone in at 8 for training,
lowest manger - shit there is no way user will be in at 8, shit bag user be in at 7 for mandatory training!
You want me in your office at 7, Brenda? Sure, I'll come in for 7. But I'm sure as hell going via the timeclock first.
is anyone actually awake at 7?
It's not until nine or even ten, and several pots of coffee that my mind is ready to absorb training information. Anything before 9, and I'm not awake enough to filter the rank sarcasm concerning the terrible AI training slides.
I consider myself mostly useless at work from 9h to 9h30, and most effective from 17h to 19h
But no way I'm staying up to 19h anymore
I'm an early bird, I'm more productive at 7am than I am at 7pm. Everyone's different. :)
Normal people aren’t but I am. Perfect time to work undisturbed!
you should got to sleep sooner!
I am getting 7h of sleep
If you ever have kids 7 is considered a sleep in