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No, John. You are the fascist and you were when you were in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. bombing and killing innocent children, obliterating entire families, massacring towns, and destroying nations for decades to come.
You proudly wear the uniform of a blood thirsty tyrannical regime, and probably think you’re one of the good ones.
Yeah, why even bother to distinguish between the authoritarians trying to seize permanent control of the most powerful country in the world, and every US soldier who's ever served?
Fuck off.
While difference between giving and following orders is meaningful, that does not free the latter people from responsibilities.
Obviously that doesn't condemn every soldier for the horrible shit their country have done (Cambodia?..) but this "respect the uniform" crap is also ridiculous.
Is it also ridiculous that the current overtly fascist administration would call out anti-fascism as a terrorist philosophy? 'Cos dude, it's happening and there's nothing ridiculous about it.
Respecting the uniform, in this case, is less about Vietnam or Korea or the Middle-east or any of the more recent wars the US enjoined in.. and more about the invasion of Normandy, the battle of the Ardennes or the liberation of Auschwitz.
Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau.. Are you not seeing that ugly militant specter is goose-stepping its way back into political vogue again?
Take a breath, step back and look at the NOW.
So many comments around here show how uneducated Americans are on 20th century history.
"OMFG it's so BAD now!"
Uh. You're about out of time to grab a weapon, buy ammo and practice. The learning curve is steep and it's about to get shitloads worse.
"Ha! You'll just die if you fight!"
"And the alternative?"
What makes you think I haven't already?
My favorite liberal, who now that I think about it is probably leftist, has an entire car's volume worth of ammo (I know because he didn't want the movers to see it when he moved so we parked his ammo in our garage. It was bigger than the Nissan I was driving) and I used to wonder why
I'm in the Northeast US. You'd be surprised at how many 2nd Amendment Democrats there are up here.
The current vogue in right-leaning circles is that liberals are all anti-firearm, limp-wristed sissies.
That's only as few, if any, would ever post pictures of themselves wrapped up in camo gear toting their firearms and chest thumping "MURRICA!!" at the top of their lungs.
Who wants to be some easily identified target when the shit hits it?
It's that milquetoast looking guy driving the Prius that's splattered with Sierra Club and Hike the Applachian Trail stickers on it that's got an arsenal in his basement.
The reality is, it was Marx, NOT Ronald Reagan, that opined that the working classes should resist efforts by the government to disarm them.
The Republican party thanks you for doing your best to sew division among their opponents.
The rest of us wish you'd shove your purity testing into your least pure orifice.
With an attitude like that you’d better be strong enough to stand alone.
You are using a modern, privileged metric informed by an intensive media penetration that was unavailable during the first three campaigns you mention, and only to a slightly higher degree in the last two.
Most enlisted I have known, and it's a lot, thought they were defending the world from despots. Hell, even the officers I know initially thought they were serving the public good. The rest I know who don't fit into that category just wanted to be able to afford college and a family.
And even if the Marine in the picture knows NOW he only served a bloodthirsty tyrannical regime, the fraternity of the USMC, the commitment to the Constitution... It's some deep, deep connection. Even the most disillusioned Marines I know are still loyal to the Corps and the Constitution. Moreover, it is better that one realizes US hegemony later than never, yes? So how about we welcome those have opened their eyes and remedied their ways?
Or we can just keep shitting on allies and see how that works for us.
It's one of those rare occasions I wish I could break Lemmy and upvote this comment more than once. Thank you.
One of those rare comments where you want to smash upvote harder.
Thank you. Jesus. The guys I've always been friends with served. Weird how that worked out because I didn't. They mostly say, "Didn't give a shit, it was a job." LOL, two of my tightest friends went AWOL and got kicked, not even a dishonorable discharge.
One of my only current friends is my black Marine neighbor. Hate to say, "I'm OK, got a black friend.", but it's relevant, particularly given the Marine pictured. He joined, did his best job, now he's out, not retired, only 30. At least he has some benefits and bought a brand-new house on my block. Also moved in the finest "girl next door" I've ever seen. :) (My ex's daughter. 🙄)
I joke, but seriously, this guy is suffering alcoholism, but at least he's got some backup from the government. Guess I need to visit more often. I try to drag him out now and again, get shot down, excuses. Need to press the attack.
Anti-fascists have dirty hands coated in soil and grease and labor, not blood.
The soldiers that invaded Normandy might beg to differ from their graves in France.
Korea? You mean that war fought by the United Nations to defend against an aggressive invasion from their much more powerful (and foreign-backed) neighbours? That Korea?
For the French.
Korea had nothing to do with France.
You're probably thinking of Vietnam. Although even that, to say it was "for the French" would be a massive exaggeration. French Indochina ended before the start of the Vietnam War (known locally as the American War) proper, and France regaining its former colonies was never on the table, no matter the outcome. American foreign policy at the time was staunchly anti-imperial. Or at least anti the form of explicit imperialism Europe had engaged in over the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries.
You are right it was mainly Vietnam. Except I had a friend whose dad fought side by side with the french in Korea. Looking it up they didn't have a huge force there but were present.
Sure, but that's because, as said, the Korean War was fought by the United Nations. A huge number of countries were involved in a small way. It was certainly not "for the French".
They call it collateral damage. Or is it casualties?! A few hundred thousand in Iraq. Plus a few tens of thousand in Afghanistan. And maybe some torture here and there.
And I doubt this person is old enough to have fought literal fascists.
All heroes for participating in the glorious defence of ~~capitalism~~ democracy.
Thank you for being someone of sense. People who spread this shit have no clue of the history of the antifascist movement and what it stands for. The antifascist movement is against everything that the rotten country that is the US stands for; the US military uniform is not, and never will be, a symbol of antifascism.