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What if their community's pressure is the reason why they wear certain types of clothing?
This is the only reason why anyone wears any particular type of clothing. There is no style of clothing that it objectively makes sense to wear.
A solid reason not to be part of that community anymore.
Try that when you're 10 👍
The trick when you are 10 is to memorize and record every single detail of it. Which adult did what on what day and which did nothing to stop it.
That way when you get older you can be crystal clear why you disowned the ones that did nothing and go after the ones that actively harmed you.
The religious deserve as much forgiveness as they have shown everyone else.
Ok... It doesn't allow you to quit the community while you're young though...
And? I have made it clear that I fucking hate religion. That doesn't mean raising a kid with religion in of itself rises to the level of abuse. The depressing thing is the people who generally raise a child are the people who made the child. And we can't legislate being a good parent we can only legislate against being an abusive one.
I would worry all that much. Those kids will grow up and see Islam and Christianity for the disgusting filth it is and leave.
I think you're just not following the discussion...
We're talking about children. They don't have choice.
And we see from Muslims, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and others, that families can and will often disown you and treat you like shit over it.
I'm in agreement with France here. They're very consistent. Go to a state school? Keep religious displays out of it, full stop.
So your solution to kids not having a choice is to not give them a choice?
Who says what I want is for kids to be able to choose to wear literally anything they want?
I was pointing out that kids don't wear these out of choice, so it's silly to act like the government is oppressing the kids by banning them.
I'm all for France aggressively separating religion and state institutions.