Matrix movie lore opinion question. Did cypher try anything else before betraying the group? Would neo and the others have tried to help him if he asked? (lemmy.world)

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I think if he would’ve been like “I’ve rally changed my mind. I can’t do this.” Neo and Morpheus I feel would’ve tried to help him re-enter the matrix.

The whole thing was about “give them a choice” and I think everyone would have at least understood how he fealt and would’ve tried to get him back into the matrix at his request.

I feel like he didn’t even try talking about it before he went to the agents.

I know it’s meaningless just wondering what other people thought.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago

Part of the reason is that he didn't just want to live a life of pleasure... he also wanted to revert to a state of blissful ignorance, and not know that the matrix was a fake reality.

That would go against the moral principles of the ship, whose main goal is to enlighten and bring awareness about the matrix. It would be immoral for them to erase his memory even if they could.

Cypher also was extremely selfish, secretly hated the crew, and had no qualms about selling them all out for his own benefit.

[-] Aeao@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I absolutely don’t want to come off as a cypher support. Yeah the dude was a jerk. We can all agree he was wrong

[-] Aeao@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sorry had to come back.

No cypher changed his wants. It started with life of extreme pleasure but I’m pretty sure they asked again and he was like “you know what. Just put me back”. Not a direct quote but the essence of what he said after with the agents. He did tone it down.

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