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[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago

Yes lol. But I'm way past the point that people's opinions of it have any bearing on my decisions.

I've had this conversation a million times. You don't understand Bitcoin, and that's ok, I don't mean it as an insult..... it's complicated. I can say that with 100% certainty based on your comments. This just means that there is more for me, at a cheaper price.

Yes there is manipulation going on, you're not wrong. But where you are veering off track is where you throw out the concept because of it.

Money is manupulated. Constantly. That's what happens with money. Bitcoin is no different.

Do you understand that Bitcoin has been around for 16 years, has never had an error or security breach (all cases of losing money are due to malicious actors or careless users), can send billions of dollars across the world for literal pennies, has over a TRILLUON dollars of market cap.

Please don't get stuck in the early days mindset. If Bitcoin was "destroyable" it would have happened long ago, as the threat it poses to fiat based sovereign currencies is huge.

I know I'm not changing any minds, but you can't say you didn't have the opportunity. You're standing in your own way.

Gold is good to invest in too now though! No shade on anyone who does that, just missing a better opportunity.

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If this is really your perspective then tone down the condescension. BTC is only viable due to the poor policies of the Trump administration.

Gold has utility. BTC has no usability beyond being a cryptocurrency. I can make things with gold.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Gold has utility

not really. IMHO gold is about as useful as aluminum or any other metal, i.e. $10/kg would be justified, but not $70k/kg, which it currently is.

like, $10/kg is real usefulness, the remaining $69990/kg are people's irrational belief that gold is valuable somehow.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Is there any value in being the hardest form of money in existence, objectively 🧐🧐🧐

Edit: the condescension is helpful in the long run. People hate Bitcoin/hate people who invest in Bitcoin are very unlikely to invest in Bitcoin. Therefore more for me, again!

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Lol ok. Enjoy bud.

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Yes, it is durable, portable and compact. We can all agree on the fact you can make things with it.

Is there any value in something that holds no real utility or real value?

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago

There is tons of utility! Intrinsic value, not like gold no.....but utility, absolutely.

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

No there is no utility. You cannot do anything with crypto whereas I can make all sorts of stuff from gold as it is a real physical object.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago

Do you invest in gold? Does your pension plan?

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago
[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago

If your pension plan does, it's not real gold right? Who has it? Are you sure? Are the records transparent?

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

It’s held in reserve by a bank if they are invested directly in gold. Who is holding your crypto? Oh that’s right no one is.

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago

Lololol no one is. Ok. God damn I guess I am going to get rich with arguments like this......

[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

If your crypto is immaterial no one can hold it

[-] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -1 points 5 months ago

Crypto is not immaterial, there is a digital (digital stuff exists in the real world, since it's not fairy magic) copy of all Bitcoin transactions spread all around the world. Without the physical presence of nodes, bitcoin would not exist.

Also, Crypto does not equal Bitcoin.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago

Do you understand that Bitcoin has been around for 16 years, has never had an error or security breach (all cases of losing money are due to malicious actors or careless users), can send billions of dollars across the world for literal pennies, has over a TRILLUON dollars of market cap.

and you're the one saying others don't understand Bitcoin. smh.

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