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Why are they putting Israel and Israeli in quotes? Are they implying that it wasn't actually Israelis perpetrating this, or that it isn't actually Israel performing the investigation? Or is this some political statement I'm not privy to?
Roya is Jordanian news site. Jordan doesn't recognize Israel as a country but an illegal entity.
Gotcha, thanks for the context.
I thought Jordan had recognized Israel in 1994, when they signed the peace agreement.
Nice to know that they have retracted.
Israel is a recently created country that only exists on stolen Palestinian land. It's highlighting the fakeness of its existence. It's occupied Palestine.
Huge chunk of world's countries are younger than Israel. Like most of African countries for example. I don't think the age itself means much
It matters as it's relative to international law being established and the country explicitly existing on stolen land.
It sounds like in itself it doesn't matter but rather in connection with something else
Well that's just fucking stupid. The world has accepted Israel as a country for almost 80 years. You can hate them, you can say they never should have existed in the first place, but they are an actual country that actually exists. Even if they get completely wiped out and destroyed, every history book will still start out with "Israel was a country...".
Pretending like they aren't a country by putting quotes around their name comes across as extremely childish. Like a little kid who's angry at their parents so they start calling them by their first name instead of "mom and dad". Doesn't matter how awful they are, doesn't matter how much the child stomps their feet or what they say, it doesn't even matter if they emancipate themselves later and legally change their name. Nothing will change the fact that they are the child's, actual, literal parents.
If the author is really trying to pettily claim Israel isn't a country by putting quotes around their name, then that's just shitty journalism relying on personal emotions instead of unbiasedly presenting facts. And yes, I am aware that's how most journalism is these days, but that doesn't make it better.
No, most of the states of the world has recognized the State of Israel, but not all. See this comment from @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml.
Even in that comment chain, it references that Jordan signed a peace treaty with them. So at one point they did, in fact, recognize it as a country.
They have a seat at the UN. They have passports recognized by every developed nation. They have treaties and engage in international trade with other nations. They fit every definition of a country. They are, in fact, a country.
Once again, just because you don't like them and think they shouldn't exist, doesn't change their status as a country. I personally don't like North Korea, but I don't go around claiming it's not a real country, because that would be a fucking stupid claim to make.
Koreans didn't genocide a native population and engage in settler colonialism to steal Korea after international law was established.
Yea, Israel is pretty shitty and terrible. Still a country.
It would be because South Korea is the fake state established by the united states, North Korea is the rightful successor of the People's Republic of Korea the first sovereign government of the korean peninsula since the japanese colonization.
Again, No. Algerian, by example, don't recognize the State of Israel, and it's not the only that not recognize it. I expect that they don't accept their passports (but I can't confirm it).
Jordan historically has had a strange relation with Palestine and the PLO. A pro-Palestine population with their elites and monarchy fearing them. Then, I will be not surprised if they changed their mind with the recognition, that was done just after the Oslo accords.
But my comment was to explain that I disagree with your claim that’s just fucking stupid to use quotes for 'Israel' and that the generalization you used to justify your position was not accurate.
Someone mentioned in another comment the author doesn’t acknowledge Israel as a country. Much like Israel doesn’t recognize Palestine as a country, but other nations do.
I despise the terrorist Netanyahu and the Israeli government, but I agree with your sentiment.
Maybe because israel is a "state"? Don't know. But it should be dismantled.