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[-] Fairgreen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

So it is true, and not a lie, because as you say yourself "the average person probably needs those things mentioned" Quite a thing to call someone a liar and to then literally agree with them

[-] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean, that's the reality of using an Android phone. 95% of apps are built to use play services in some way, and while most of that can be ignored, apps using push notifs are almost always going to be play instead of unified push. Make the choice of either living with no push notifs, or having push notifs.

You can use GrapheneOS without push notifs, it's just inconvenient, and the average person wants convenience. This isn't a Graphene problem, it's a big tech influencing Android problem. The original comment makes it seem like Graphene is the issue, but other ROMs are going to encounter that same issue anyway (as I said, Android problem). So therefore I didn't lie, asshole.

Maybe you can use microG to get around notif issues, but that does require logging in. Use a Linux phone at that rate if you're not gonna use push notifs and don't need Android.

[-] Fairgreen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

OK it sounds like we agree. But I do prefer custom roms that use microG, it is a great opensource alternative to Play Services. This is precisely what is needed to break open the Android market: alternatives to Google's monopolistic software

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