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And here I was waiting to get unplugged, or maybe finding a Nokia phone that received a call.

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[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

Our brains do in fact create our experiences with no contact to the world outside our bodies, its our sensory organs that give data to the brain to create our perception of experiencing things.

Ehhh..... The claim that there's a clear delineation between the central and peripheral nervous system is generally just a byproduct of how we teach anatomy. The more we understand about cognitive science and anatomy in general, the further we get away from the old understanding of the cns when it was treated almost like a computer that runs a machine.

I think it kinda depends on how you define an experience, but you're kinda edging into an old debate known as the mind body problem in cognitive science and philosophy.

[-] confuser@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

None of that suggests this can't be the case though.

What I'm saying is that for example, dreams are not real, and yet they can and often are indistinguishable from reality, many even have dreams where they are aware they are dreaming and can control them the same way we can control what we do while awake.

This is only possible because we have bodily systems for producing experiences.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago

What I'm saying is that for example, dreams are not real, and yet they can and often are indistinguishable from reality, many even have dreams where they are aware they are dreaming and can control them the same way we can control what we do while awake.

I think to adopt that argument you have to be operating on some preconceived assumptions.

Dreams are "real", in the sense that they are propagated by measurable physical phenomena. Just because some people can experience an amount of choice in their dreams, does not mean they are interacting with "reality".

This is only possible because we have bodily systems for producing experiences

Again... Experiences needs to be defined. There are a lot of theories about how we engage with the world around us in both a physical and metaphysical way.

[-] confuser@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dreaming is perception unconstrained by sensory input

Reality is dreaming constrained by sensory input

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

Dreaming is perception unconstrained by sensory input

That's not really true.... Dreaming is a cognitive function that is still limited by how we engage with our surroundings normally. Congeniality Blind people do not see in their dreams, and deaf people do not hear.

Reality is dreaming constrained by sensory input

Imo that is a bit of a narcissistic way to view reality. Reality is shared, and not defined by an individual person's sensory input. There are natural laws that persist even if there is no way for a person to perceive them.

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