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Despite what Sinatra would have us believe, if you can make it in New York it doesn't mean you'll make it in the mid west or any of the purple states. (Democrats haven't had a vote share lower than 65% since the 00s I think)

Yes, a record number came out to support him but almost as many came out to support anyone but him :(

My hope is that for all the naysaying, Mamdani turns out to be a technocrat in the Sewer Socialist model and shows the country socialism ain't so scary. The whole "laboratories of democracy" in action.

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[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I mean, the Blue vote was split.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

Exactly, 8% of the vote total did NOT go to either the Democratic nominee for mayor (50.4%) or the former Democratic governor (41.6%). By this logic, democrats are UP 27 points to 92% in NYC.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

OTOH that's mostly a paper democrat

But I'll take the win

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

I mean isn't that still kind of it though, I'm trying to figure out how new york city is being called a "democratic stronghold". as if it's been solid blue for the last 50 years or something... the place that made Rudy Giuliani, followed it up with bloomberg. Then followed up with 2 corrupt centrist democrats.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 4 months ago

how new york city is being called a “democratic stronghold”

New York City tends to poll more Democrat/Left than the state as a whole. The last time NY State elected a republican Presidential candidate was Reagan.

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Point still holds... the last time a republican New York MAYOR was elected, was only 4 elections ago... prior to Mandami's win the 10 elections prior to it for mayor went 5 for republican, 5 democrat. Doesn't really make sense to compare a mayoral candidate to a presidential result, in a city that apparently has a strong track record of supporting republican mayors even when they went all in on the democratic president.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Maybe progressive stronghold would've been less controversial.

But the basic concept, even in a very progressive place, the clear, almost dream progressive candidate barely cracked 50% and a record number came out to oppose him.

I cannot fathom how this looks like a winning recipe for the Democrats in say, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Wisconsin etc.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 4 months ago

The progressive candidate that we've been craving barely cracked 50% in one of the more progressive places in the country.

This doesn't bode well for say, a very progressive Presidential candidate.

Lumping in former democrats as current ones seems more than a little silly.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 0 points 4 months ago

The argument has historically been that the Democrats don't nominate progressive candidates and if they did, progressives would come out and vote for them overwhelmingly (despite not doing so in the primaries.)

In one of the most progressive cities, we had one of the most progressive candidates ever and barely cracked 50%.

So, it doesn't bode well for the Dems chances if they nominate a very progressive Presidential candidate. (You would probably have the Blue vote similarly, wherein sure, some progressive would win the Democrat label, and some independent would run to the centre and split the Dem vote.

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