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Its so crazy to see liberals insist that Uyghur Genocide is a big problem that requires US military intervention but the Israeli Very Legal And Good Police Action Against Hamas For October 7th is going great and actually Palestinians should be thanking the IDF for all their hard work.
Like, what even is your definition of genocide anymore? I've seen liberals insist that the Uyghurs are being brutalized by a Chinese government building schools that teach Mandarian in the rural corners of Xinjiang. I've seen liberals insist a Taiwanese BDSM porn was proof that China's police state was in violation of a dozen different treaties and conventions. I've seen Tibetian life expectancy double over the last 40 years and then received an earful about how the Tibetian ethnic government was doing terrorism by importing modern Chinese TVs, Radios, and Computers with Mandarian language broadcasts into the region.
Meanwhile, you've got liberals insisting Greta Thunberg is the antichrist when she tries to deliver baby formula to the Gaza shoreline.
Absolute obliteration of the western understanding of the term. Israelis tortured an orthopedic surgeon to death and there's absolutely no news coverage of it. Bolsonaro butchers native people in Brazil so he can clear cut their rainforests and the liberals still back him. The Philippines is just an endless string of police actions against union organizers and nobody cares. But Kenya gets a new hospital and that's Chinese genocide in West Africa.
Okay, but how can I be racist if I hate everyone in the Middle East, huh? Huh?!
I don't hate everyone in the middle east, I hate warmongers all over the globe.
Are you saying everyone in the middle east is part of these organizations dedicated to genocide? Pretty fuckin' racist, man.
Name one good Arab.
I'm saying you know virtually nothing about the region, you're just regurgitating the bigotry you've been force fed since kindergarten.
You're repeating liberal narratives and attacking socialist democracies, so it's understandable that you're being identified as a liberal. Same with you both sidesing a literal genocide but repeating fascist slogans.
China and Russia aren't socialist, if they were socialist then the workers would own the means of production.
They're both just capitalist oligarchies with dictators who disappear their enemies and fake elections.
China is socialist, public ownership is the principle aspect of its economy and controls the commanding heights of industry. Even if you're (wrongly) defining socialism as cooperative ownership, the PRC has one of the largest cooperative sectors in the world, though it's subservient to their public sector. Huawei is an example of a cooperative. They have real elections and real democracy.
Russia is a capitalist country, yes. It's supported insofar as they align themselved with socialist countries and the global south, as well as having increasing numbers of those supportive of returning to socialism.
Google "China Negative List Foreign Investment". You might learn something about how Chinese federal laws guarantee domestic ownership of property and titles and understand why so much of the wealth generated within China remains within the Chinese working class.
Is there a country in exist that you believe is Actually Existing Socialism, or are you going to shove your fingers in your ears and insist SEOs aren't real, state central planning isn't happening, democratic elections don't count, and Marx didn't say anything about the socialist transition in his writings.
I mean, Cuba had a bloody history and some rough years because of the US fucking them over, but they seem to be doing better now. I respect Cuba 1000x more than China. Unfortunately, they're still a one-party state without free and fair elections. The Nordic model leads to much better outcomes, though that's a mixed economy and I know you tankies fucking hate that.
I'm a Nordic Model to Meidner Plan kinda guy.
Cuba has fair elections, and maintains extremely close ties with China out of solidarity. China has been providing solar panels and other means by which to help alleviate Cuba's energy crisis right now.
The Nordic Model relies on imperialism to function. The social safety nets are funded by plundering the global south, and control of industry is kept in the hands of capitalists. They are less democratic than countries like Cuba and China, and serve as plunderers of the global south, unlike Cuba and China.
As such, the Nordic countries are declining alongside the general decay in western imperialism, while socialist countries like Cuba and China are rapidly improving.
I think the most telling indictment of the Chinese government is its failure to extend aid to its ideological allies abroad, whether that's Cuba or Kashmir. But when you're lifting 200M people at home out of poverty with industrial improvements and agricultural modernization, its hard to complain. Beijing has done an amazing job of not-getting-into-wars. More than the Russian Soviets managed by a long shot.
You could say the same thing about California or Florida. What's annoying is that "one-party state" is held up as some kind of indictment without regard to how popular the party is. Like, I hate Texas politics, but I'm not naive enough to believe the state lacks a Republican majority. I'm not going to hold Cuba to a higher standard, simply because they're venerating Che Guevera instead of T. Boone Pickens.
Imagine being this much of a western leftist, where you're so racist you can't recognize AES and just repeat the most obvious propaganda
Says the Ukrainian ultra nationalist
It's extremely fucking telling that your response to Israel's genocide is "fuck both sides!" But you response to the Ukraine war is to become a Nazi slogan shouting Ukrainian ultra nationalist.
Yeah man, Russia definitely invented the concept of pointing out blatant hypocrisy.
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