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Ukraine, European Allies Reject Key Parts of US-Russia Plan
(www.bloomberg.com)
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That’ll just bite them in the ass
eventually it will
I think trump still has a dozen flops left in him (and at least that many flips) but he might be saving them for other stuff.
Indeed. Now that it's becoming impossible to hide the fact that the AFU is collapsing, he doesn't want to be left holding the bag. Throwing it over to the Europeans seems like his only way out now. He can say the terms were acceptable to the US, and if they're not acceptable to Europe then they're welcome to take over. This way he won't have to own the L.
Meanwhile, the Europeans completely trapped themselves in their own narrative. They've been talking about rearmament and being able to take on Russia to keep the Americans in. Now Trump might do judo on them and say since you've been saying you're so capable, you've got nothing to worry about. We'll sell you all the weapons you need, and the rest is up to you.
Would the US be willing to part or even sell some of their high tech equipment especially since they can only produce a short number of them and they're needed for the eventual confrontation with china in the Taiwan strait?
I doubt the actual capacity for production is going to be a consideration. What's gonna happen is that US companies will just get a bunch of contracts funded by European money. And then there are going to be inevitable delays because they can't actually produce that stuff, but by then the money is already committed and that's what matters.
Even if we do there are the reported US controlled kill switches. Not that they can't be reverse engineered and made moot, but that also takes time.
I fervently hope so. I'm beginning to think it's all deliberately elaborate orchestrated theatre to keep us distracted from whatever horrendously sinister plans the Western powers are enacting while we're distracted. I'm only half kidding.