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submitted 1 year ago by umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I'm considering to switch to Proxmox for my main PC, run a Windows VM on top and passthrough the GPU to play games. However, I heard anti-cheates aren't that friendly to VMs. Had anyone tried this? Thanks.

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[-] ipacialsection@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Isn't Proxmox intended for servers whose only use is to run VMs? Why not go for a traditional desktop distro like Mint and run KVM, QEMU, or VirtualBox on it?

Anyway, I have heard something like this, but it probably depends on the anti-cheat. Some might run in kernel mode to deliberately detect VMs. Others won't care if you use a VM.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Proxmox runs KVM/Qemu in the backend, so it's essentially the same thing. OP might want to have a machine in their rack they use for remote gaming for example.

Also don't use VirtualBox.

[-] ipacialsection@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

It sounded like OP wanted to install Proxmox on their main PC, which would imply using it as a daily driver desktop OS, which it isn't.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

It is not but more like a building block for my daily driver.

I plan to use Proxmox VE to build a virtual infrastructure in one machine. It will have many VMs running and one of it would be my daily driver.

[-] ipacialsection@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

Ah okay, that makes more sense.

[-] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

What is wrong with using virtualbox?

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's subpar, closed source, kernel module installing, type 2 virtualization that makes users believe VMs are slow, when in fact Type 1 hypervisors usually achieve near 98% efficiency. And too boot it means that open-source projects like virt-manager don't get the usership they deserve and need to continue being maintained.

There is legit not a single reason to use it on Linux, and there hasn't been in well over a decade.

[-] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Wow I didn’t even know it was closed source. Thanks for pointing this out, I will definitely be getting virt-manager.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not entirely closed source, but the extension packs are. The other reason are the main one that should make you switch. Why use subpar software when there's a better, trusted by the entire industry, alternative builtin already?

[-] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I am already spinning up a Debian vm. I had a minor issue with file permissions but it it is working great now and is definitely faster than I remember virtualbox being. I am so glad I saw your comment and I would switch to this even if Richard Stallman himself wrote Virtualbox and all the extensions.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's also a whole lot more flexible. And will easily do full PCIe passthrough with some more advance configuration. virt-manager even works remotely over SSH if you have another machine you want to run your VMs on!

[-] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

GPU passthrough was the next thing I tried! Do you know any good tutorials? The one I found tells me to do mkinitcpio but I don’t seem to have that. I think I mentioned this is Debian but in case I forgot its Debian.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I don't have a specific guide for you, but a good place to start is: https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough

I think that's what they're saying, in that, use proxmox to host a gaming vm. But choosing a hypervisor that can run games well bare-metal does sidestep some potential headaches.

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