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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 187 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Note plenty FitGirl repacks are lossless; as in, she isn't taking less important files out of the game, she's compressing it better. 90GB→35GB seems accurate; you often see ~1/3 of the original size, like this. And it shows plenty game devs

  1. do an extremely bad job at basic tasks like compression.
  2. give no flying fucks about players, who might have really slow connections.

And then those same developers get amazed at the fact FitGirl is so popular. "Maybe we're doing something wrong? ...nah."

[-] fiestorra@discuss.tchncs.de 72 points 2 weeks ago

I wouldn't really say that. The kind of extreme compression Fitgirl does comes with the tradeoff of really long decompression times. Depending on which games, nearly 45 minutes (with a 7800x3D)

Some games lack compression but I would not want those long install times by default, if you have a speedy internet connection they usually take longer to install than to download. Don't get me wrong, for people with really slow internet those repacks are a godsend but they are not "better" on every aspect.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Steam gets around this problem by doing the decompressing on the fly as you download. Go check out your CPU usage next time you install a game.

Edit: I think this is also why it defaults to not downloading while you game. Steam doesn't want you to have a bad experience from the decompression.

[-] Timbits@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

More like check your hdd. Steam goes like this for me download, download, download, pause downloading to extract and smash my hdd, download, download, downloand.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I think it ends up waiting for slower storage if your cpu or HDD are too slow. I experience that with slower sdcards on the Deck.

But on a decent NVMe with a balanced CPU the download and disk are full bore and the CPU usage goes really high.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

I hope you aren't literally still using an actual HDD.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not for games, usually, but it still has its uses, so why not

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

Is this why steam is so insanely slow to download games.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

It can be, spinning iron has pretty bad throughput.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 2 weeks ago

Could be a variety of things but yes. It also depends on the game and how compressible it's assets are.

[-] LikeableLime@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

It will also use ALL your bandwidth by default. I can't even watch a yt video or anything while doing a steam download unless I limit the bandwidth in settings.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What kind of router do you have? If it has any kind of "smart queue" or "smart qos" you could try enabling that and it will de-prioritize steam's packets (as needed) so that web browsing and voip still work.

[-] LikeableLime@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Awesome thank you for the tip. I'm not too well versed in networking so I never really dig around in my router settings. I'm just using the Modem/router supplied by the ISP right now and it doesn't look like it has anything like that from a quick look through the config page.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ahh yeah the provided router might not have some of the more advanced features. But suffice to say this isn't so much a steam problem as it is a "how computer networks work" problem. The way routers work by default tends to penalize "bursty" traffic like loading websites/gaming/voice and prioritize sustained traffic like your download, so it's nice that valve provide the option to limit the bandwidth. I'm on satellite internet right now waiting for verizon to finish their fiber install and I can't even use that reliably because my bandwidth changes constantly D=

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