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One Piece chapter 1166 discussion (mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp)

Surely they'll let you into the World Government this time Harald football-lucy

What did you think of this week's chapter?

No break next week! luffy-pog

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[-] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

Garp and Harald certainly don't learn their lessons. It's interesting that they're both so driven by their ideals (justice and peace respectively) and then they're hit with the reality of things. But we also see the setup of next generation who reject following those paths in Dragon and Loki.

Loki's flashback with Rocks is such a tease of what his devil fruit will be. Seems like the reason it's important is that when a giant uses it they can somehow call out to the Galleila company giants... what could it be???

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Garp and Harald are really neat depiction of powerful people with good intentions being thwarted by a system far larger than them. I think it's no accident that Oda writes in the line from Sengoku that explains that the navy is so incomprehensibly large that it's basically only united by ideology rather than any sort of personal leadership. Garp kinda reminds me of a good version of Kizaru who believes that he's just a cog in the machine of the WG's will but Garp actually uses his personal strength to nurture others to take on the system (kind of hinting back to when we learned that the Roger pirates were "too early" but used the rest of their lives to either prepare for the great war or herald the next generation).

[-] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's a nice running theme with a lot of the Marine characters, they each have an ideal of what justice is or should be but they inevitably clash with reality. Garp loses faith in the justice preached by the Marines after the God Valley Incident but resolves to stay and protect the low rankers from what they can't stand up against, only to find he can't protect everyone when the WG is set to execute Ace. Ultimately he recognizes the limits of his personal justice which is why he's training the next generation vs Sengoku who's basically done with trying to change things after retiring.

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