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[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 1 points 1 month ago

Don't forget to give the eyes 10x the surface area of what's biologically possible

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In a lot of Asia, youth is seen as attractive

Human eyeballs are generally all the same size, regardless of skull or body size.

Youth = small

Big eyes and small everything else therefore means cute

Art often exaggerates or interprets

Anime is art

Anime is also not a new medium at all in Japanese, and now global culture, and has had a lot of time to evolve

I'm not defending it, just explaining it, in case people don't understand, because this is a long-standing and very common complaint/criticism

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But we could have like, a whole anime done in the style of Ukiyo-E, for characters design style motifs, for facial and body proportions..

You could mock up a 3D model and cel shade these to work out how they'd work from different angles.

This is certainly an exaggerated interpretation of reality.

It is also certainly Japanese.

These were also largely seen as depictions of beautiful, desirable people.

Here, this one's from 1932,

The eyes are getting bigger, but noses still exist, the facial proportions are actually pretty close to realistic, if not just completely realistic, unlike in the modern standard anime style.

I dunno, I guess the modern standard anime style is just much much more neotenous (oversized heads, relatively oversized eyes, relatively undersized/unemphaszed noses) because it is meant to appeal primarily to small children, who are themselves neotenous?

Whereas the consumer base for Ukiyo-E would have been primarily adults?

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

because it is meant to appeal primarily to small children

That notion is Disneys fault. East-asians usually see comic juat as a distinct art type, for grown-ups too.

[-] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

One of the earliest "modern" manga artists got influenced by the large eyes of disney and other western comics and shows
And others adapted it

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Ah, thats a very good point!

And the stylistic intermingling has certainly gone both ways a bit, and then more recently, quite a lot.

Now we have like, basically hyperrealism done on anime proportions, the kind of AI autogen art style, that I would basically call 'uncanny valley with high production value.'

But we could have like, a whole anime done in the style of Ukiyo-E, for characters design style motifs, for facial and body proportions…

What you're forgetting is that anime (and art in general) is typically not done to please the critics, but to please the fans.

[-] MotoAsh@piefed.social 0 points 1 month ago

"Biologically possible", I mean, quite a few animals have eyes taking up a ton of their headspace. Owls for starters.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

... Unless you are planning on hybridizing an owl and a human, in pursuit of growing your own GMO Waifu...

I think we can safely assume the scope of the context is 'a human being'.

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