I dunno i agree with what you're saying in general and in principle but as an American living amongst Americans it's hard to say they are a civilized people

That's a good point. I was just trying to insult America the country and its ruling class, but I do not actually hate the ordinary working class people who unfortunately have to live there, and this is indeed language with a high potential for misuse and abuse, and I probably shouldn't have said it. Thank you for pointing that out.