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Video of DeSantis getting booed til he shuts up.
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It's just Trump. None of the others in the primary are even close. There are really two things to be concerned about:
Vivek isn't a threat. No one likes him anywhere. Republicans hate him cuz he's brown, no way he'll win anything.
Yeah, I think you're right. He just over-performed in the last debate, and were republicans at all logically consistent he'd probably be their pick and I think he actually has a shot at winning over some independents and Dems that aren't paying attention. That said, Republicans obviously aren't consistent and that slipped my mind for a sec lol.
My sister, who is a Millennial conservative, loves him.
I think he's a "well, actually" guy with veneers.
That mental picture made me spill my coffee, too funny...
My prediction: Trump wins the nomination, and DeSantis starts his own party and siphons Republican votes, ala Ross Perot. (Or the reverse, Trump loses the nomination and starts his own party and siphons R votes.)
I can't see it. He doesn't have the balls to go on his own. He tries this and the party never forgets. Perot wasnt a politician.
Indeed. He can't seem to even stop fellating Trump at every turn. He's not going to try to start his own party because there is no path to power there. The only thing that him starting a party would accomplish is ensuring Republican loss.
Economy was doing well in 2012 and 1996. The economy is not doing well right now. The last time an incumbent Democrat ran for relection during an economic downturn was Carter.
You are also forgetting that the GOP has been hard at work the past few years making sure certain people are not going to be able to vote and even if they do that the state can override it.
I'm not forgetting that at all, I'm saying that they are so actually unpopular that even voter suppression they've done and continue to do will likely not be enough in the current conditions.
Also, in a traditional sense, we can't really say the economy is not doing well. Record job growth/creation, record low unemployment, strong market, etc. The places the economy is not doing well are related to wealth inequality which is not solely, but primarily a result of republican trickle down policy for the last 40 years and them eroding the middle class at every turn.
At basically any other time, Biden's presidency would be considered a rampant success, especially after the sheer destruction of the last admin. If he doesn't coast to reelection, I'd probably blame that primarily on the amount of propaganda that starts at Fox and manages to propagate out.
Just be careful. It's easy to see all of the political discourse occurring online and become convinced that they don't stand a chance. Even in the last election, an incredibly concerning number of people still voted for Trump and will absolutely do so again.
Unless the man is disqualified, drops out, or dies, it's still going to be a bitter fight just like 2020. We just have to pray that the tendency for middle of the aisle voters to flip flop every time the economy takes a downturn is reduced this time around given all of the controversy around Emperor Cheeto.
oh, on that front I 1000% agree. My main fear is that the narrative tanks Biden's re-election and we end up with one of the fascists, and I guess the point is that we can't continue to allow that type of thing to go unchecked and expect it not to. Unfortunately, it's mostly narrative that decides elections rather than facts.
Inflation and low workforce participation rate.
... which are caused by Republican policies. The catalyst for the massive inflation was a pandemic that was absurdly mis-managed by republicans. The low participation rate is any number of things that republicans have been blocking for decades.