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Hello everyone!

I've finally released Eternity on the google play store. Note that this is not compatible with the existing releases as this build has a different signature.

Thanks for your support and looking forward to your feedback!

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[-] elkalbil@jlai.lu 19 points 1 year ago

Thanks!

I used Liftoff but I missed Infinity since I moved to Lemmy, didn't want to use IzzyOnDroid.

Any plan on a build in the official F-Droid repo?

[-] bazsalanszky@lemmy.toldi.eu 17 points 1 year ago

I'm waiting for a review there as well.

[-] BeeCoffee@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Why you didn't want to use IzzyOnDroid?

[-] elkalbil@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

Because of the disclaimer on this page:

DISCLAIMER: I have not thoroughly checked the .apk files available here. As stated above, they are directly taken from the repositories of their resp. developers. Some basic measures are taken, though (see the Security section below). Still, use this repo at your own risk: I will take no responsibility whatsoever for any damages which might occur as result (not saying there will be any, though). Further note the inclusion policy of this repo (see the link above) is slightly less strict than F-Droid’s.

[-] BeeCoffee@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I think they should put this warning in any app store right now, self awareness is something many people stop doing when they promise you safety, even in the play store you can find malware so for best practice check the developer

[-] elkalbil@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I started typing a very long response explaining my risk model, how a malware on my mobile device will be a nightmare to my whole digital life, etc. Long story short, my case might differ from yours and I consider Izzy's security not enough for me.

I consider myself fairly educated in infosec. Security is layered, no single measure can give you assurance it will not fail.

I suspect Google to perform automated reverse engineering on the Play store apps. F-Droid get the source, not the binaries. Much easier to look for sketchy behaviour if you've got the sources. Yes, Google sometimes get malware on the Play store, but it usually does not stay very long or affects a lot of their users.

Izzy simply does not have the resources to do so, so they use VT as a "replacement", which is not good enough for me; AV solutions have traditionally shitty engines for mobile apps.

Also, Izzy is a much more confidential source for apps. Only a few (if any) security researchers will look at it. Even if someone finds a malware, I strongly doubt it will make news, even in IT security websites. Whereas the Play store or even F-droid...

I don't blame them nor anyone using them, I'm just saying the risk of potential malware on my phone is not worth the benefit of installing bleeding edge apps for me.

[-] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

That's a nice and concise explaination.

[-] gamey@feddit.rocks 2 points 1 year ago

I would highly suggest Izzys repo for WIP apps, that has a faster release cycle!

this post was submitted on 30 Aug 2023
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