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[-] dan@upvote.au 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

~~Parents should be doing a better job parenting, rather than relying on the state to do it for them.~~

Also, when has banning kids from doing something actually stopped them from doing it? Even "back in my day", using a proxy to bypass blocked sites was common knowledge amongst the smarter kids. The tech savvy kids would host their own proxies using a free web hosting service and PHProxy (or similar software). These days, it's much easier to use a VPN or proxy.

Parents can compete against teams of people whose goal is to make their platform as addictive as possible? Nah, it's a systemic problem and it won't be solved by some parents sometimes doing something of limited effectiveness. Nor will it be solved by blanket bans.

[-] Karjalan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Ugh "parents should do better parenting" is such neo lib individualist bullshit

[-] dan@upvote.au -1 points 1 month ago

Maybe I shouldn't have included that in my comment, but my point about trying to ban kids from doing stuff being ineffective still stands.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I don't disagree, but this law could have been an opportunity to give parents better tools with which to parent.

It is far, far too difficult for any parent today to impose parental controls on their kids' devices. Parental controls are an afterthought, put in place barely enough to tick the box saying "we have parental controls", and not effectively doing much of anything. The law could have forced tech companies to do better and make it easy for parents to use effectively.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

It’s hard already when parents are overburdened with trying to pay the bills.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -2 points 1 month ago

so you're in favour of it then? less need for parents to worry about what misinformation and disinformation is being supplied by paid actors on facebook, win/win ?

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

No, having parents mailed social media dangers brochures instead would be a better idea.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

What else should people be allowed to do to children just because the parents aren't "vigilant" enough?

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 1 month ago

Hey both of these are covered on the FAQ

proxy to bypass blocked sites was common knowledge

It's not a technological block, the social media sites will rely on a variety of signals, for example if you sign up for a facebook account in USA, but take a selfie geolocating you in australia and image scan picks up that you might be under 16, you'll still get pinged for id check

amongst the smarter kids

They are targeting all under 16's, and this is mentioned as well, even if 10% of kids get around the ban somehow, the fact that 90% don't removes a huge part of the social in social network

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 month ago

even if 10% of kids get around the ban somehow, the fact that 90% don't removes a huge part of the social in social network

The kids that get around the ban will spread that knowledge to others. That's what happened when I went to school, and I don't think it's any different today.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

good luck to them

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