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Well the PF instances don't really have an excuse, though iirc the flagship PF does defed (or maybe it was a default block?) from the entire Triad
But it has come up that some major instances have a big concern in that if they defed from .ml dessalines will pull back support from them in retaliation
Which is always a fantastic healthy green flag of a relationship/s
Any evidence of this? https://infosec.pub/instances defederates from Lemmy.ml and is doing just fine
I think by "pulling support" he means that they will no longer support the instance if there are bugs or problems occurring. If you're technically savvy enough, you can probably get by without their support.
The Threadiverse Admin group has all the admins of the biggest instances , that's probably more than enough to troubleshoot any issue
Also if you're experiencing a but in the software itself, there are high chances that it's there for everyone, so Lemmy devs will probably want to know about it
I don't really consider infosec.pub to be a "major" instance, it's only at ~300 MAUs iirc, by "major" I'm thinking .world or SJW or blahaj
In any case, I'm almost positive I've seen it mentioned publicly in one of those big threads, maybe the donation ones a few months back. It was also told to me point blank by an admin of one of said major instances in a DM, but I am unsure how or even if I can release that considering it was told to me in private
Here is an example of both Dessalines and Nutomic helping troubleshooting Lemmy.cafe , which defederates from .ml
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5112
So there are a few possible reasons I can see with this
So it doesn't change anything in any of the 3 scenarios, until the last one, and even then there's still no documented evidence of the Lemmy devs not helping ever happening?
What truly matters is that major instances have this fear to begin with, not whether or not it will happen.
Then why don't those admins switch to Piefed if that's a fear? It's been around for a while now, and it works as well as Lemmy.
While we are talking, why haven't you switched to a Piefed account yourself?
He wants use their products while saying they evil. He's too lazy to move, just only enough time to use old out of context screenshots to laugh at lonely people.
Probably because it's not easy to transfer entire instances? I don't know dude.
I don't care to switch. Lemmy is dead
I've moved plenty of communities to PieFed instances. It gives Piefed more visibility, and can help people know about it. Same reason I use Piefed for my main account.
You do you, but criticizing the Lemmy devs while keeping your Lemmy account and your communities on Lemmy seems contradictory
why'd you make a comment responding to me but didn't respond to my comment?
lol bye
DM me and i'll maybe consider unbanning you, Eugene
you're kinda weird dude, why do you post so much about me but don't actually talk to me directly?
and also why are you whining about downvotes in another comment yet that's all you do in this comm?
You can't even identify when a post is fake or satire, sonic chu, what you deem contradictory is meaningless to me
If such comment was made it would have probably created a lot of dedicated posts
If an admin of any instance got threatened that way they should probably release the evidence as this would probably encourage people to move to Piefed.
Sorry if I phrased it weirdly, I didn't mean to imply that threats had been made (which I mean, dessalines is smarter than that, because like you said it would blow the Lemmy-verse up if he actually made a threat), but rather it's a fear that's out there.
But like I said, I have confirmation of that fear in a DM from a major instance admin. Whether or not that fear is founded and justified or not, is up for debate. But it exists and it's a factor in the decision making process
Then why doesn't that admin switch their instance to Piefed? It's been stable for a while now