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I’m heartened to see a Muslim man was a hero and wrestled a gun from one of these shitheads. I hope the one that survived the attack lives to face justice for his crimes.
Did they at least kick the shit out of him after disarming him?
Unfortunately no. The hero points the shotgun at the murderer but it appears he either didn’t know how to use it or wasn’t prepared to shoot someone. The murderer then runs over to his accomplice and picked up another gun. The video is on the publicfreakout subreddit if you want to see it.
Here in not-america we generally don't kill people who are not an imminent threat, like someone who has been disarmed.
I've seen the video of the guy being disarmed and moving away towards the bridge, but not the part where he re-armed himself.
Even if, in this particular case, the perp did rearm and injured more people, our hesitance to shoot someone who is not an imminent threat has no doubt prevented the deaths of many thousands of people over the years.
America mention 🎉🎉🎉
(i think maybe you have unresolved issues you should work on)
Mate, everyone has unresolved issues they should work on.
It's a BBC article posted about Australia posted in worldnews, you don't need to bring America up. Bring on the downvotes, losers.
There's some context here you might be missing.
There's a third option that would be lost on Americans but obvious to everyone else: seeing that the attacker was no longer an imminent threat, the guy chose not to execute him.
The comment I replied to has a very American perspective, and its obvious to everyone who is not American.
Wow what a uniquely American idea, only Americans believe in capital punishment and execution.
You are truly a critical thinker, and your biases against a non-monolithic grouping are not delusional at all.
Oh man.
Only an American would conflate murder with capital punishment.
Well done.
Ah man only an Australian would brutally genocide a bunch of indigenous people and then lose a war to giant birds.
Hey man, at least my direct ancestors aren't convicted rapists.
Do you really want to get into a country pissing contest? Because guess what, dipshit, you live in Australia. You've been a joke your entire existence. Your state is an upside down island that no one gives a fuck about.
Struck a nerve? Yeah dude. You did. It's still xenophobic. You're still a xenophobe. Punching at Americans isn't punching up- in case you forgot, a huge percentage of us live in poverty and are being held hostage by an authoritarian government that any moment might start killing us for not being a white cishet person (I say as if people aren't literally disappearing as we speak)
Anyway, go fuck yourself and die, bitch.
Yes atrocities were committed against Australia's indigenous. You're welcome to talk about that as much as you like. I will however point out that colonists the world over mistreated the indigenous wherever they found them. That doesn't diminish Australia's culpability, but don't throw stones at glass houses or whatever.
This one is an interesting one. While some of the convicts transported to Australia probably were convicted of rape, it was far less common than things like petty theft, fraud, vagrancy, prostitution, and that type of thing. Violent criminals just didn't make great colonists, and were usually executed.
You'll find that most Australian's wear their connections to this era with some kind of pride. For example the first of my ancestors to arrive here was convicted of man slaughter. He had a drunken brawl in a bar and pushed someone down a flight of stairs, and they died. He was an accomplished clock maker, and worked on the mechanism in the town hall not far from where I live.
He's the only convict in my lineage of which I'm aware, but I admit there may of course be one or more rapists unknown to me, but I suppose I share that in common with most people including your good self.
My comments weren't intended to be a "country pissing contest". I was merely pointing out this particular interaction will be difficult to understand through the lense of American gun culture.
Nothing in that article says this guy is muslim, you're spreading misinformation about this man
Sure, his name being Ahmed al Ahmed isn't a guarantee he is Muslim, but it's a very very very very very very very very very very very very high indicator
It's really not, he's Lebanese. The majority of Lebanese people, especially in diaspora are Christian. Assuming this guy's religion because of his is literally just racism.
A 2012 study conducted by Statistics Lebanon, a Beirut-based research firm, estimated Lebanon's population to be 54% Muslim (27% Shia; 27% Sunni), 46% Christian (31.5% Maronite, 8% Greek Orthodox, 6.5% other Christian groups) [11]
According to a 2020 analysis by the Pew Research Center, the demographic landscape of Lebanon reveals a Christian population estimated at 27.9%, with Muslims constituting the majority at 67.8%. This data underscores the religious diversity within Lebanon, reflecting a dynamic interplay of different faith communities within the country.[13
That's the country of Lebanon, not the diaspora. Like I said, the country is 50/50 between muslims and Christians, but the diaspora is heavily Christian.
Your reading comprehension is nonexistent. Lebanon the country has around 4 million and is half Christian, half muslim. However, the Christian diaspora is 14 million and the vast majority are Christians.
Last I checked less than half =/= majority. The fact that you’re correct about the diaspora is immaterial. I simply provided data that shows you’re wrong, and ironically, the one spreading misinformation.
Picking up two L’s in this thread must be rough for your ego, sorry bud. Nice ad hominem though
Tbf he did say "diaspora" meaning he's talking about Lebanese that have moved (or dispersed) abroad, and he's saying those who moved are mostly christian.
I can't back up his claims (because honestly idgaf about your internet argument and am not going to look into it at all), but the "54% Muslim..." seemed to say that was in Lebanon, not all those who have migrated elsewhere, so it's possible you're both right.
(Though also I've seen articles saying he is Muslim so unless those are wrong this is all a moot point anyway.)
Yeah I’m admittedly feeling petty today which is why I chirped in on this thread after our prior exchange. They’re right about the diaspora, which I did not refute, but the way they structured their sentence, particularly in using the word especially, came across as stating that both the nation and their diaspora are majority Christian. The fact that the Pew study from 8 years following the initial figure of 54% pegs the Christians at an even lower share would support the idea that the diaspora is disproportionately Christian. Still doesn’t change the fact that the hero of the day is a Muslim, as stated by multiple news outlets and the PM of Israel.
But hey, don’t listen to me, I’m just a barely literate propaganda bot ;)
What a weird little internet slapfight I’ve walked into.
This is not a first name that is common among Christians here. I think adopting mainly Muslim names among Christians is common in some parts of Africa? It’s also possible that you wouldn’t be familiar enough with Arabic names to distinguish between explicitly Muslim names and secular / nonsectarian religious names (and Christian ones, we have a lot of those).
Ahmad is a 1,000,000% Muslim name. I think this is common knowledge in most places around the world since this is an extremely popular name almost exclusively used by Muslims.
This would be like arguing that a guy named Jesús could be from any religious community. Technically that’s true, but - Jesús. Really? Is an argument worth it?
I'm literally Arab lol
In the countries like Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria, it's not uncommon for Christians in to have islamic names. For example in Southern Lebanon you'll find a lot Christian people with names like Ali, Umar, or Yusuf even though these are common islamic names.
Cool, me too
I’m literally a Lebanese Christian from the South. Well half of my family is from there. I have an extremely Arabic first name, and last name for that matter. Is that enough?
These are stunning examples. Youssef is Joseph, so that’s a Christian name first to me (if I want to be that guy, I don’t.). But the other two are very explicitly coded to a single sect. Ali is not even used by half of the Muslim population, Omar is also not used by the other half. You’ve picked the probably single most uniquely Shia and Sunni names respectively. Maybe it’s different where you live, maybe there are no explicitly Sunni or Shia names around you. But no Christian bears a name like that anywhere in the country.
This is like reading a headline about a Portuguese guy named Jesús Espírito Santo and going ballistic over him not being explicitly mentioned as Christian. It’s fine. Our hero today is almost certainly a Muslim, and even if he isn’t, I’m glad he did what he did and has been a good representative for the Lebanese community around the world regardless
No I’m not. Not my job to look up other sources for you, but here you go.
Once again, this article doesn't show any evidence that this man is muslim. The headline is misleading and not supported at all in this article.
I feel like people like you are quickly making up assumptions about this man based solely on his name and using that assumption to push narratives. This man is a hero, no doubt, but I haven't seen any actual evidence of his religious beliefs in any local or major media outlet.
I don't know why you're being downvoted, you're absolutely right. A quick google search contained no information about his religion
Multiple outlets are reporting he’s a Muslim man. I’d imagine others are not as his religion isn’t exactly relevant to his being a hero.
They're not reporting it because there's no evidence regarding this man's religious beliefs. You just went out of your way to find a couple of clickbait headlines without even bothering to read them to spread narratives. You're a part of the problem.
Kindly get off your high horse.
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/who-ahmed-al-ahmed-bondi-beach-hero-disarms-shotgun-wielding-terroristhes-brave-muslim-1762911
The source of this guy being muslim in the article is literally Benjamin Netanyahu...
Regardless, all I wanted was for you to provide an article that at least had a source for the claim. I don't trust anything Netanyahu says out of principle, but still this is an article that does provide something to support the claim. It's not a pure clickbait headline that's misleading. So there we go, that puts whatever this was to rest.
After sleeping this off I think I was being too much of a dick needlessly. I can respect and agree with your desire to make sure facts are well vetted before potentially pushing a false narrative. Cheers mate
I was being too much of an ass as well. We're all good bro
It's nice to see you doing this, but you really weren't the problem in this thread. That account was not posting in good faith. You were immediately accused of spreading misinformation, then when you politely provided evidence, they doubled down both on the sealioning and the name calling. The votes tell the story here and you did well and you did good.
Well, the linked article is literally titled "Bondi Beach hero revealed as Muslim fruit seller Ahmed al Ahmed", so maybe that's why? Just a wild guess.
That's just the title moron, if you bothered to read through the 3 paragraph article, you'll quickly see that there's NOTHING in the article that even hints at this man's religious beliefs. The headline is just there for click bait and you fell for it
You seem like a very pleasant individual.
The title is part of the report, moron. There are no special rules that mean you can lie in the title, moron. There are no special rules that mean you have to expand on every detail in the title or else it's not true, moron.
I'm having a hard time understanding your comment. Are you implying that media outlets don't lie in their headlines? Are you perhaps implying that claims don't require evidence for you to believe them?
Media literacy is dead. People on here are willing to believe clickbait headlines and misinformation if it pushes a narrative they subscribe to.
It's because the 'people' you are talking are either propagandists or bots.
lol yes I made this account years ago in preparation for an argument as stupid as this. You sound ridiculous.
the interview with him includes him praising Allah.
dude is Muslim. the only asshole making it a bad thing is you.