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[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

So it's entirely optional, you only encounter it by interacting with the browser in an atypical way, and the thing it does is a thing that AI is actually pretty decent at (summarizing text)? Sounds like they couldn't stop themselves from joining the dick hammering bandwagon, but decided not to hit it too hard.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This isn't my wheelhouse so take it with a grain of salt, but an argument against link summarizers that I've heard is that it takes views away from websites that could be generating revenue for themselves. Instead an LLM scraped their content and fed a summary directly to the user.

[-] quantumcrop@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's more of a concern with google summaries that show up at the top of search results because it completely removes the need to click on any of the websites it pulls from. Ideally a link summary just lets you figure out which link you need without clicking on and looking at each one.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for adding that detail, makes sense. I was thinking the link previews were yeah more like the google results. Hover over and not have to go to the site.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do people making that argument also find ad blockers even ten percent as horrible as this? They both ultimately have the same effect, which is your web browser not maximizing someone else's profits by denying them a revenue opportunity.

I'd be curious if the link summarizer in Firefox runs a model locally or calls some remote API. Most current machines ought to be able to run an appropriate LLM model for that task.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's a good question. I'd personally argue that it's different in that the adblockers are not an inbuilt part of Firefox, they're made by extension developers. This is built right into the browser.

[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

*yet

The new CEO is an AI True Believer, and I don't doubt this will last.

They'll remove the options to turn it off, and make it full of the AI features, with no opt-out or opt-in

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

entirely optional

No, it's on by default, it has access to everything you're browsing and doing fuck knows what with it, and you need to know that it is doing it and unless you've read it somewhere you don't know that it's there.

thing that AI is actually pretty decent at (summarizing text)

That's so not true it's not even funny.

I mean yeah, it could be worse, everything could be worse. Still, not good, not good at all.

[-] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Holding my click on a volume slider triggered the feature so it quickly became really annoying

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

you only encounter it by interacting with the browser in an atypical way

Leaving my pointer on a random place that happens to be a link is atypical? I don't think it is. I had this pop up to me a couple of days ago and I didn't even understand what could've triggered it, I was wondering if I clicked something or pressed a key unconsciously.

and the thing it does is a thing that AI is actually pretty decent at (summarizing text)

Pretty decent? Just passable, if the text is about some run-of-the-mill topic.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't do that for me. I have to hold left click on a link for over a second to trigger it.

And yeah, pretty decent. It can produce a basically summary of a fair amount of text pretty quickly and generally accurately. It's not an expert wordsmith, it won't give a deep and thoughtful analysis of the poem you pointed it at or anything, but that's not the use case. The use case is "give me the key bullet points of this article so I can decide if I should give it more attention.", and it does that job pretty well.

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