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Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is 'making Russia the enemy' - BBC News

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Regularly attacking their neighbors is what makes Russia the enemy.

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Came here for this. Yeah, you’re the enemy because you invaded another country, and have been trying to gaslight the rest of the world about it ever since. In fairness, though, the gaslighting has worked on one particular idiot.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 1 month ago

And all the not quite attacking but still hybrid warfare and desinformation didn't help. All kinds of drones going over militairy locations in Europe is not a real token of friendship. Fighter jets skimming the borders are also not seen as a peaceful greeting.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

While I don't necessarily disagree, I wonder if you apply the same standards and suggest economic sanction to the USA and EU given their recent support of genocide in Palestine, or historical invasions such as Iraq or the bombing of Libya

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I would love to see sanctions against Israel and anyone who aids in the genocide of Gaza. I see no difference at all between the actions of Israel, and those of Russia. They should be treated the same.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

Good, I'm glad we agree that the genocide deserves sanctions for EU, USA and Israel. Hopefully then we also agree that the rearming of the EU is undesirable and dangerous, and EU citizens should push for disarmament and for a breaking of relationships with USA and Israel, and USA citizens should do the same in their country, as is said about Russian citizens

[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

rearming of the EU is undesirable

Sad that Putin made it necessary and unavoidable.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -1 points 1 month ago

As an EU citizen, I'd rather have healthcare than being sent to the frontlines when the far right is in government

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The EU has every right to defend itself against acts of aggression by a hostile neighbor...just like Palestinians do. Until countries like Israel, the US and Russia start acting like civilized nations...no one around them is safe.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

But EU is foremost an invader. We've seen it with Libya, Yugoslavia, Iraq and Afghanistan, and more covertly in post-colonies in Africa by countries such as France or Belgium

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

Lol! The whataboutism is off the charts. Anything to deflect from Russia's current actions...right?

Why aren't you also advocating for Russia to disarm, if you think the EU should?

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

I do advocate for Russia to disarm given The EU and USA doing it.

Not about whataboutism, I just don't want my taxes to go to killing children in some underdeveloped country as they inevitably will if EU rearms.

[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 0 points 1 month ago

You can call out hypocrisy if you wish, there's certainly alot of it, but most of what I see you doing is running interference for a dictator with dreams of conquest and it makes you come across as a hypocrite yourself. If the US invades Venezuela and other nations rush military aid to them like Europe has rushed aid to Ukraine, it would not bother me even a little bit.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -1 points 1 month ago

I'm not complaining about military aid here, I'm complaining about the rearming of the EU. I don't want 5% of GDP to be taken away from healthcare, pensions and education and being spent in the military industrial complex when the far right is about to rule half of Europe

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