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Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is 'making Russia the enemy' - BBC News

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[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago

Idk man, I don't remember the west forcing you to invade your neighbor for imperialist reasons.

[-] Aliktren@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Not to mention Salisbury

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I think maybe Russia is making Russia the enemy.

[-] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

All they had to do was nothing.

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Regularly attacking their neighbors is what makes Russia the enemy.

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Came here for this. Yeah, you’re the enemy because you invaded another country, and have been trying to gaslight the rest of the world about it ever since. In fairness, though, the gaslighting has worked on one particular idiot.

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[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

It's pretty obvious to everybody that Putin is making Russia the enemy. He didn't have to do that; Europe desperately wanted Russia to be a friend, but Putin had other ideas. It's his conscious and explicit choice to make Russia the enemy, and he's the one constantly talking about being at war with the west. Nobody else js doing that but Putin.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

he wants the old soviet union back, where they owned most the countries in central asia, and some of eastern europe.

[-] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don't invade other countries. Don't interfere with other countries' elections. Considering Russia helped Trump get elected twice and tried three times I'm very angry at them.

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago
[-] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Always has been the enemy and always will be the enemy certainly as long Putin remains in the Kremlin.

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[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We are making Russia our enemy.

  1. Poisoning of Viktor Yushchenko (2004)
  2. Energy blackmail (2006)
  3. Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (2006)
  4. Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko (2006)
  5. Murder of Sergei Magnitsky (2009)
  6. Energy blackmail II (2009)
  7. Creation of Internet Research Agency, aka troll army (2013)
  8. Started war in Crimea, illegal annexation (2014)
  9. Started war in Donbas (2014)
  10. Shootdown and coverup of MH17 (2014)
  11. Started supporting dictator Assad in Syria (2015)
  12. Assassination of Boris Nemtsov (2015)
  13. U.S. election interference I (2016)
  14. French Election interference (2017)
  15. Sergei Skripal poisoning (2018)
  16. Brexit referendum influence (2018)
  17. U.S. election interference II (2018)
  18. Tiergarten assassination (2019)
  19. Navalny poisoning (2020)
  20. U.S. election interference III (2020)
  21. COVID-19 disinformation campaign (2020–21)
  22. Full-scale invasion of Ukraine (2022)
  23. Bucha massacre (2022)
  24. Weaponization of energy against EU (2022)
  25. Forced deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia (2022)
  26. Migrant weaponization (2023)
  27. Rheinmetall CEO assassination plot (foiled) (2024)
  28. Election interference in Moldova & Georgia (2024)
  29. U.S. election interference IV (2024)

Russia is doing nothing wrong.

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Don't forget 2015 Jade Helm Scare, where they were testing their ability to manipulate using crazy stories on social media. Russia was able to convince gov Abbott of TX to order the TX National Guard to observe training exercises in Central TX because he was convinced that Obama had ordered the army to go into Walmarts, turn them into makeshift detention facilities and was planning to round up people that voted against him in a hostile takeover of the state. Obviously, it was just a training exercise, but the fear on the right was extreme.

[-] lietuva@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

There's chechnya war and Georgia invasion, both which happened after fall of USSR

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This was definitely not an exhaustive list.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

Also the colonization of Africa to steal all their gold and minerals while propping up warlords in exchange for armed Russian mercs that crush dissent. That's happening right now.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

1990-2013 I saw Russia as friendly'ish even when they fought in Chechnya etc.

2014-2021 wtf. maybe they are not so good? what's next?

2022- Russia is definitely the enemy

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I remember working in the early 2000s with Russian institutes and things were really good.

2008 was when I recall the first "wtf", in the war with Georgia.

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[-] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Putin is what I imagine it would be like if a Bond villain won.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

Plus we have dementia Goldfinger in charge across the way

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Russia is making Russia the enemy. If they don't like it, they can stop that today, by ending the war, and stop being massive dickheads.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 1 month ago

He's just angry Europe is arming itself quickly and ruining all his plans for further conquest.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Just like laws make a murder a criminal.

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 month ago

Have they ever tried not being everyone's enemy

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Vlad and his MAGA buddies can piss in the wind. GTFO of Ukraine (includes Crimea), East Prussia, Karelia, and the Northern Territories.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Do you mean to tell me Ukraine started this senseless war? No? Then fuck off you dumb old man.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"I'm starting to think you guys only liked me for my gas!"

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Literally 2 posts up on my feed:

This is great for distracting people from the real reason things are getting worse everywhere.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Between the invasion of Ukraine, the troll farms helping inflict Trump on us, the support for fascist parties, the novichok, the airspace incursions, the underwater cable sabotage, and the deployment of drones in western countries' airspace, that Russia's the one who has made Russia the enemy.

Don't fuckin' DARVO us, Puto, we know what you're up to. And we know that the only way this ends satisfactorily is with Putin on a meat hook.

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[-] gergolippai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

All you do is invade your neighbouring country and commit war crimes, and suddenly you are labeled as the enemy... people are so cruel!

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Putin allowed the West to do so with the Ukraine invasion.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

If the shoe fits...

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

classic DARVO

[-] whitecollarcry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

russia is basically stuck in a fart suit with this unbearable shit until they decide they're tired of being abused or he dies

[-] nadram@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Like blaming the victim for sexual assault

[-] northernlights@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

Lol how can he say that with a straight face.

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