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I'm way too old to be a Millennial, so I obviously can't directly sympathize, but the ridiculous prices today really trigger the introvert side of me. I have this strong desire to move somewhere that land is still very cheap and become a crazy hermit who lives in a shed or something.
Any time I have a piece of this feeling I'm reminded of the most underappreciated technological and society development: the flush toilet.
Its freakin' magic that usually requires a functioning municipality to run dependably and cheaply. I just don't think I can live a life long term without it.
You make a great point for a sane person, but it's unconvincing to a crazy hermit.
You can of have flushing toilets with a septic tank. It doesn't have to be an outhouse.
Yep. Grew up in a village. We had flushing toilets that flushed into a septic tank.
A septic system isn't that expensive nor hard to maintain. If you have access to well water you can run it near independently. Assuming electricity of course, which is often available even in places without sewer or water.
All you need is to occasionally pay someone to come and pump the tank
OPs scenario is paraphrased as "shack out in the woods removed from civilization". Getting the equipment and workers out to such a place would present the first challenge.
See, now we've raised the bar to not only requiring a sewage solution, but also dependable electricity and water source. This is why a functioning society is so valuable. It can provide easy and cheap access to dependable water, sewage, electricity, and skilled workers to build, install, and maintain the systems that let the toilet function without a second though.
See point #1.
A bit inland in Dalmatia (Croatia) seems very cheap and you could have at least have your own wine and olives. Land directly at the coast is super expensive.
Well it's telling that all of the rich investment banker types always eventually quit and start a hobby farm in the country.
The general feeling seems to be that agriculture was a good idea, but we took things too far with this whole civilisation thing.
You remind me of this Hitchhiker's quote:
Nah screw that. The issue is not enough cities, and the solution is certainly not further unsustainable sprawl