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https://github.com/ublue-os/countme/blob/main/growth_global.svg

Graphs can be found here on their github. Since around mid November the active user count for Bazzite has gone up by around 16k active users.

Personally, my only wish for Bazzite is a Cosmic version 👼 I tried it out recently and it seems fairly impressive

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Why is Flatpak Steam worse for performance? I've been using it for years, seemingly better performance than Windows on the same system. Something inherent about Flatpak?

If you’re serious about gaming I recommend KDE as your desktop environment, plays nicer with HDR, VRR and fractional scaling than Gnome.

Mm, I don't think I'd be willing to sacrifice my Niri workflow. Niri also supports fractional scaling and VRR, but not yet HDR, which I can live without until it's implemented. 😁

[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Flatpak is simply a sandboxed application, similar to a Docker container. Its better to have natively installed applications over sandboxed if you are seeking the highest level of performance.

You have essentially made all your games run within a sandboxed instance which has a limited set of binaries that emulate another mini OS within your primary OS.

If you haven't seen any performance issues, then keep on doing what you're doing, the software is very well made compared to Ubuntu Snap and likely has similar driver performance as close as possible to bare-metal

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Flatpak is simply a sandboxed application, similar to a Docker container. Its better to have natively installed applications over sandboxed if you are seeking the highest level of performance.

This is bullshit. Containers run natively on your system just like "native" [sic] applications.

[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They literally say they are a fucking container tool like Docker in their own FAQ , you silly person.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Read again. You completely misunderstood.

[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

What's a container that doesn't run natively on the system called?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

There is no such thing.

Containers are just separated from the rest of your system by cgroups. You can even see the executable running in containers with ps and top. They're native binaries running on the same kernel as the rest of your system.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's not what they were refuting. They were just saying that containers run on the metal just like any other software.

🙂

[-] markstos@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

That’s not what the FAQ says, rather it says Flatpaks are often sandboxed but not fully containerized. Containers don’t need to have a performance penalty because they run on the same kernel as the host. Container tech applies a chroot, disables some capabilities within the container and that’s about it. They are in contrast to virtual machines that need to boot an entire additional OS before doing anything.

[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

Looks like I don't understand how it works and should simply shut the fuck up instead of spreading nonsense.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

essentially made all your games run within a sandboxed instance which has a limited set of binaries that emulate another mini OS within your primary OS.

Isn't it just library bundling? It's not like it's running inside a virtual machine or anything.

I can see the Rocket League process right there when listing my user processes, e.g.

There are so many conflicting reports regarding the performance on Flatpak, for Steam but also in general, so I don't know what to believe.

At least one source said the performance overhead is negligible on modern hardware, so I think I'm gucci.

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