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this post was submitted on 05 Jan 2026
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This may have a lot of truth, except that US hold on Europe is absolute through political and media control. Every elected leader/party only understands US subservience, and will ensure that media remainst Atlantacist with Russophobia as the distraction for tyranny.
Global south is a much bigger market than tying yourself to US collapse. In 2014, Germany simultaneously prepared Ukraine for war on Russia, with BS acceptance of Minsk accords as a delay tactic for war, while providing loan guarantees for nordstream 2. The level of suicidal devotion to US knows no bounds, and its doubtful there will be meaningful objections to giving Greenland to its master, even when the only purpose for US control is closer attack launches on Europe.
Europe's natural ally/trading partner is Russia. But it will take a revolution to break the fascist puppet tyranny over Europeans as the institutions and brainwashing are too strongly entrenched to perpetuate it towards collapse.
But didn't you know that Russia Bad? On that basis, I reject your whole comment
Prescient comment, given what the replies ended up looking like.
Liberals? In these threads? I am SHOCKED
The critical thinking question is which is worse US vs Russia. In 2019, Europe seemed to have a brighter future than today, and the big difference was normal Russian relations. The collective EU failure is denying that Ukraine war was primarily a war on Europe by the US, creating this new Russophobia.
"Everything bad America does is because Russia is controlling it."
I'd accuse you of being a bot in turn, as a joke, but to be honest I think it says more that a lot of Americans really think this way.
Russia pursued peace for 8 years, and had very reasonable red lines to avoid the war. US categorically 100% forced the war with the arrogance that Russians would believe the propaganda given to Europeans that NATO is a defensive alliance, and Ukraine must remain nazified. No respect for Russian security was ever considered. Extreme failure of public sanity and awareness to side with US propaganda and subjugation of Europe instead of reality.
I salute your effort to push back on this stuff. I think you hit the nail on the head in your previous comment for why people never seem to do any basic kind of "maybe Russia also has real geopolitical considerations and is not simply populated by evil orcs" analysis. I'll quote the part I think explains it below, emphasis added by me.
As you say, Europe had a brighter future when it had better relations with Russia. If the Europeans want to destroy their own industry and sink their economies by helping the US cut them off from Russian oil with this manufactured conflict, then I suppose no one else can stop them.