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[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

Frankly I’ve never had any issues running Windows 11. It’s just the OS in the background for me. I think the biggest difference is I always run Enterprise versions (not Pro or Home) and most of that crap is either non-existent, disabled by default or easy to disable via GPO.

The big thing for people to realize is that Enterprise is the version most all businesses (especially large ones) run, and Microsoft isn’t going to crap on them as easily. And they know by extension, people will run what their business is, but they can get away with making Pro and Home crappier since it’s just individuals who would switch, not large swaths.

[-] 11111one11111@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lol its amazing how Noone in the real world knows that microsoft makes OS's without all the enshitification shit in them that run decent, dont block features from being disabled, are all around non-infuriating piles of shit like the non-enterprise versions, charge an arm and a leg for it. Then microsoft (or at the same time didnt mean one before the other) releases the functionally identical OS versions but so facefucked full of enshitification shit they constantly break, these versions hold you down with an update pistol in your mouth that tells you inorder to live you will update every fucking shitstorm we tell you to, it rapes yo wife, rapes yo kids, ignores all bugs calling them features, all the while having a bomb strapped to their chest that says you dont accept everything we ruin of yours we blow your whole fucking system sky high. And those versions they call Home and Pro versions.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 4 months ago

Pro and Home is where they test-market the worst of the garbage... some of it does make it into Enterprise - a surprising amount has gotten into Office 365 - but, yeah, not enough to make it completely dysfunctional.

[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

My company (130,000 employees) sticks to 24H2. IT wouldn't approve the 25H2. Don't know whether the refusal to upgrade hurts Microsoft in any way, but if it does, I think we're big enough to be on their radar, and perhaps they talk to our IT about concerns and complaints we may have.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

This is the issue I have with people talking about how "you MUST always run the most up to date software". They don't understand that in large enterprise it is common for function and security to not update unless there is a damn good reason. The very idea that the newest version is the best is just marketing brainwashing and does not hold up to the reality of use.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

25H2 is a feature update. 24H2, for now, gets all the same security fixes. When people say "always run the latest" they mean stay on a supported OS and always have as many security updates as possible within reason.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

And they are laughably wrong. Its always the wannabe system admins with 4 end users spouting that nonsense. You get into any big organization and legacy becomes a larger and larger part of the way things are kept running. Hell just for shits and giggles look at the back end of blood banks, government, airports and non blood banks back end infrastructure. I would be shocked if anything was running on less then a decade old software. Hell people think that software hardened over years should just be tossed out the window because the company (who has now made it clear they don't even know what they are doing) released a version with a bigger number.

Just what are they teaching these days? No OS is secure, exploits and vaunrabilitys are in them all. This should not be a hot take but all I see is lazy it departments offloading responsibly left and right. The correct way to handle this has always been from a risk management approach. You need to assume your not ever secure, make backups, develop a plan to recover after an event and if you have sensitive data handle it like it was sensitive. Now a days we have usernames and passwords stored in the same databases, plain text critical data, lack of redundancy at all levels and a slick sales package to justify it all.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thank you! Lemmy is a bunch of people bitching about their brand name laptop running a garbage version of Windows and loaded with factory crapware.

But hey, they get to come here and comment smugly about Linux. Meanwhile, I haven't read a single article talking about an issue I've actually seen, at home or office.

[-] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago

Which is, by the way, totally ok. If you buy an expensive computer and it is getting shipped with a garbage version of an OS that is something to complain about. It's also totally reasonable to complain that there is a garbage version at all. People shouldn't need to reinstall their brand new computers with pirated enterprise versions to escape the abuses of Microsoft. At least let us bitch about this here, dude!

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

Pirated? You may not be aware, but you can download Windows ISOs straight from Microsoft. The second you boot your machine and register it, the license is permanent and you can install Windows forever.

[-] SirActionSack@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If retail laptops came with enterprise or the upgrade to enterprise was free or the home and pro versions had the same minimal crapware as enterprise then you might have a point.

But that isn't the case and Linux is still free and not full of shit so the smugness is mostly justified and you're mostly wrong.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago
  1. Register your new laptop.

  2. Wipe and reinstall an official ISO from Windows without the crapware.

  3. Best served tweaked with some PowerShell scripting.

or

  1. Download your Linux ISO and install

  2. Best served tweaked with CLI work to get everything working. If the drivers are even available.

this post was submitted on 02 Jan 2026
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